WVU is not a top tier program (neither is VT fwiw). National perception of ACC is pretty much based solely on where FSU and Miami finish. A good 10-25 team is helpful but not a lot better than BC was for much of their tenure. Problem is FSU and Miami not even being a top 25 caliber team at any point during the season aside from the preseason poll.

Quote Originally Posted by lawhokie View Post
I dunno, WVU has won three BCS bowls since 2005, over Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson. They also have seven top 25 finishes in the last ten years. WVU is not a top tier program, but they are close, and even if you discount a win every year from WVU for the ACC, they're still good. If WVU wins one BCS bowl for the ACC and wins a few bowl games over the years, maybe the press wouldn't have been so openly critical of ACC football. Geez, if WVU is in the Atlantic, maybe Wake-freakin'-Forest doesn't win the ACC. Talk about bad for the ACC's image.

Right now the ACC has four football schools: FSU, VT, Clemson, and Miami. Adding another football school and subtracting dead weight could have changed the conference perception considerably. WVU basketball has been pretty good too.