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    Have a bad feeling the ACC is going to get screwed with the BCS Selection, especially

    when we send one of our little private school ADs to sit on the board. We need to limit it to a real "Football" school ADs! Look what happened when we sent the WF rep to represent us on the NCAA Basketball selection committee...fewest number of ACC teams in the tournament in history, multiple years!

    We're probably always going to be screwed due to our perception as being the #5 conference...and looking at our games vs ranked opponents this year, that isn't going to change. For example, UVA will lose both of it's games against PSU & TCU. Miami will lose both of it's games against ND & KSU. NCSU will probably drop it's opening game in Atlanta against Tennessee, and our only real hope for a win against a OOC ranked opponent is that Clemson takes Auburn, and that's still far from a sure thing.

    Give us a true criteria and/or ranking system instead of what VT basketball has been experiencing over the last half decade...a moving target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgeman View Post
    when we send one of our little private school ADs to sit on the board. We need to limit it to a real "Football" school ADs! Look what happened when we sent the WF rep to represent us on the NCAA Basketball selection committee...fewest number of ACC teams in the tournament in history, multiple years!

    We're probably always going to be screwed due to our perception as being the #5 conference...and looking at our games vs ranked opponents this year, that isn't going to change. For example, UVA will lose both of it's games against PSU & TCU. Miami will lose both of it's games against ND & KSU. NCSU will probably drop it's opening game in Atlanta against Tennessee, and our only real hope for a win against a OOC ranked opponent is that Clemson takes Auburn, and that's still far from a sure thing.

    Give us a true criteria and/or ranking system instead of what VT basketball has been experiencing over the last half decade...a moving target.
    If any ACC school goes undefeated, they are not being left out. If they have one loss or more, they screwed themselves, not the committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamburger View Post
    If any ACC school goes undefeated, they are not being left out. If they have one loss or more, they screwed themselves, not the committee.
    What happens when a one loss ACC team gets passed by a 2 or 3-loss SEC team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgeman View Post
    What happens when a one loss ACC team gets passed by a 2 or 3-loss SEC team?
    People on a message board will bitch and moan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Water View Post
    People on a message board will bitch and moan
    And that will be different because.... Oh yeah it will be just like always; The sky is falling and everybody is out to get us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgeman View Post
    What happens when a one loss ACC team gets passed by a 2 or 3-loss SEC team?
    I doubt a 2 or 3-loss team from any conference makes the playoff. Two losses is typically a ticket out of the top 10. I know it's possible to name situations where a 2-loss team was ranked in the top 4, but that's really kind of rare. Most years, the final 4 will be 0 or 1-loss teams. I don't think a 3-loss team has a chance in hell of making the playoff. Ever.

    That typed, if a 2-loss team gets in over a 1-loss ACC Champion, it would be disappointing. But I doubt it happens. If we'd beaten Clemson in Charlotte last year, we would have been 12-1, and ACC Champions. I doubt we would have been kept out of a playoff. The fact is anytime an ACC team finishes the season with only 1 loss or undefeated, they're gonna be ranked in the top 5, very probably in the top 3, depending on how the other teams have done.
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    I bet a 2-loss team would have made the playoff last year. The first 3 were no-brainers: No. 1 Seed LSU, No. 2 Seed Alabama, No. 3 Seed Oklahoma State. I bet the committee would have looked favorably at Oregon over Stanford even though Oregon had 2 losses. I think Stanford was ranked 4th and Oregon 5th but Oregon won the Pac-12 and beat Stanford. Their loss to LSU probably wouldn't have been held too harshly against them. Just IMHO of course. Other conference champs (Clemson, Wisconsin, and West Virginia) wouldn't have been a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokietony View Post
    I bet a 2-loss team would have made the playoff last year. The first 3 were no-brainers: No. 1 Seed LSU, No. 2 Seed Alabama, No. 3 Seed Oklahoma State. I bet the committee would have looked favorably at Oregon over Stanford even though Oregon had 2 losses. I think Stanford was ranked 4th and Oregon 5th but Oregon won the Pac-12 and beat Stanford. Their loss to LSU probably wouldn't have been held too harshly against them. Just IMHO of course. Other conference champs (Clemson, Wisconsin, and West Virginia) wouldn't have been a player.
    I agree... I think last year's 4 playoff berths would have gone to LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State and Oregon.
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    I think the "selection committee" should be a handful of math nerds like Massey/KenPom/Steele/etc. They get together and decide on a purely objective ranking formula BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS, and release the exact formula to the media so the process is totally transparent. This eliminates all forms of bias, and no one can complain about being unfairly left out.

    Do the same thing for the NCAA Basketball tourney while you're at it also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Phew View Post
    I think the "selection committee" should be a handful of math nerds like Massey/KenPom/Steele/etc. They get together and decide on a purely objective ranking formula BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS, and release the exact formula to the media so the process is totally transparent. This eliminates all forms of bias, and no one can complain about being unfairly left out.

    Do the same thing for the NCAA Basketball tourney while you're at it also.
    I'm all for that. Take the human poll bias out as much as possible. If it's all set in stone before the season starts, there can be no bias after play begins.
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