ACC has been extremely mum, for discussion lets say acc has a home run

[Mercury]

Lets for discussion purposes, is Big 12 and SEC just posturing, and ACC got ND and maybe pulled PSU out for a new undisclosed TV contract with both ESPN and NBC/Comcast. They go to 16 members and the other conferences are just blind sided....

ACC appears very very quiet, not defensive, and you hear all that talk for the big 12 arena

[UpstateSCHokie]

I think the ACC already showed its hand when it got Pitt & Cuse to join the league.

That's their idea of the "home run" Beef up their basketball credentials and let the other conferences worry about football.

I often wonder if the mentality is "we're never going to be as good as the SEC in football, so why bother. Let's worry about the other sports."

Lets for discussion purposes, is Big 12 and SEC just posturing, and ACC got ND and maybe pulled PSU out for a new undisclosed TV contract with both ESPN and NBC/Comcast. They go to 16 members and the other conferences are just blind sided....

ACC appears very very quiet, not defensive, and you hear all that talk for the big 12 arena

[nova1111]

Yeah & NCAA could require SEC, Big12, etc., give up their playoff spots to ACC. C'mon. Maybe we could get Newt Gingrich to build us a stadium on the moon for the ACC championship game, with intergalactic TV rights. That'd be nice.

[nova1111]

Agree & I'm sure neither of us is talking down basketball. It just helps to be candid now and then.

[133193Hokie]

The ACC's end game has been to destabilize the Big East and force ND's hand - hoping that ND comes to the ACC. That is really their only option given the constraints of the ACC.

[nova1111]

That's interesting. BTW, could you expand on 'constraints of the ACC?' I don't ask to put the idea down at all. Obviously, it could be important in sorting it out for the schools involved.

[133193Hokie]

Geography, $, and academics. From a geography perspective, they are limited in the teams they can go after - there are no big movers and shakers within the ACC footprint that they can go after. From a $ perspective, the ACC has the lowest payout, so why would a team (Penn St for example which would fit the geo and academic profile) leave a higher paying conference to take less money in the ACC. From an academics perspective, the ACC was never going to go after a school like WVU.

[UpstateSCHokie]

I don't now. Geography doesn't seem to preclude them from going after ND. I think they are more limited by the fact that all the good schools they could want are already in better conferences.

Geography, $, and academics. From a geography perspective, they are limited in the teams they can go after - there are no big movers and shakers within the ACC footprint that they can go after. From a $ perspective, the ACC has the lowest payout, so why would a team (Penn St for example which would fit the geo and academic profile) leave a higher paying conference to take less money in the ACC. From an academics perspective, the ACC was never going to go after a school like WVU.

[nova1111]

You make it sound very constraining. What about an electronic footprint, as the new Big 12 Commish says the big12 should shift to?

[NC ACC Hokie]

I don't now. Geography doesn't seem to preclude them from going after ND. I think they are more limited by the fact that all the good schools they could want are already in better conferences.

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