Why is the Big-12 considered a desirable destination today, when...

[Edgeman]

they were on the ropes just a month ago? They have the same problem, and you can bet that everyone outside of the top-4 dawgs would love an alternative conference, but they are stuck. They partnered with the SEC when the Cowboy's owner decided he wanted to make his Dallas stadium a major "BCS" type of bowl, and wants to throw his money behind it. What can the SEC say, "no thanks" to all of that cash when partner with the B-12 champ? What will the new B-12 members say when that game selects Big-TX every year, and they pocket all of the cash.

Hate to break it to you, but the Big-12 is just as disfunctional today as it was a month or two ago. They just have more cash today thanks to ESPN. Don't fool yourself, the lion's share will still go to Big-TX, then his minions get the next cut, then everyone else scrambles for table scraps. Same as it ever was, just ask Nebraska, Mizzou, Colorado, aTm, and everyone that isn't Big TX's butt boy.

If the ACC wants to make themselves relevant, FSU, CU, VT, UNC (pipe dream), NCSU, UMD, and scUM need to start winning the big games. Having FSU & UM go completely in the tank for a decade did wonders for the ACC rep for being a lightweight. VT partially filled the void, but there are limits on what we can do without any (make that almost zero) help from the Atlantic division. The bottom line is really simple, just win baby!

[nova1111]

No. You're wrong. Big12 has done a great job of landing on their feet and the new partnership with the SEC just sets in concrete that fact. Getting Bob Bowlsby as their new Commish was a huge plus also. They're back in business, and nobody commenting on the sport nationally isn't acknowledging that.

Get with it. You're behind times. Somehow many ACCers seem to feel it makes the ACC to have the Big12 to look down on. Sorry. Looks like we'll have to find someone else to look down on.

[133193Hokie]

The Big12 is now "stable" because the SEC decided to save them and not the ACC. With yesterday's agreement the SEC picked a side as we move towards 4 super conferences and a 4 team playoff. The ACC should have seen this coming. Just as the ACC wants to destabilize the Big East (because we want some of their teams - ND, Pitt, etc), the SEC wants to destabilize the ACC. The SEC does not want to expand any further west, hence they want the Big12 to survive. The SEC DOES want to expand into VA and NC, hence they want the ACC to become unstable.

[NC ACC Hokie]

The two moves that changed the B12 from doomed to one of the four power conferences: Instituting equal revenue sharing for their Tier 1 and Tier 2 media revenue, and each team dedicating its T1& T2 media rights to the B12 for 13 years, which essentially locked them into the league. That made the B12 stable and gave them the base to build on.

Worth noting both of these were done before Bowlsby came on board.

[UpstateSCHokie]

Not to mention adding TCU & WVU enhanced their football resume'

The two moves that changed the B12 from doomed to one of the four power conferences: Instituting equal revenue sharing for their Tier 1 and Tier 2 media revenue, and each team dedicating its T1& T2 media rights to the B12 for 13 years, which essentially locked them into the league. That made the B12 stable and gave them the base to build on.

Worth noting both of these were done before Bowlsby came on board.

[NC ACC Hokie]

Not to mention adding TCU & WVU enhanced their football resume'

Yeah but the media rights moves I mentioned made the B12 attractive to WVU and TCU. That's why they are 100% the basis for the Big 12's turnaround.

[UpstateSCHokie]

I agree your reasons are the main ones for creating B12 stability, which led them to be a power. But I think WVU would have bolted to the B12 no matter what. The Big East was going down and that was their only out. Ditto for TCU.

Yeah but the media rights moves I mentioned made the B12 attractive to WVU and TCU. That's why they are 100% the basis for the Big 12's turnaround.

[nova1111]

True--done pre-Bowlsby, but same guys who came up with the solution also picked Bob Bowlsby as the guy to come in and make it all work-- to capitalize on all of it, and IMO they made a helluva choice.

[Beez]

the big12 is now "stable" because the sec decided to save them and not the acc. With yesterday's agreement the sec picked a side as we move towards 4 super conferences and a 4 team playoff. The acc should have seen this coming. Just as the acc wants to destabilize the big east (because we want some of their teams - nd, pitt, etc), the sec wants to destabilize the acc. The sec does not want to expand any further west, hence they want the big12 to survive. The sec does want to expand into va and nc, hence they want the acc to become unstable.

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