A couple Clemson "insiders" on their site's apparently think they and FSU.....

[KingslandHokie]

will be joining the Big XII for 2013 and it will be announced by August 1st. I find it ridiculously hard to believe, given that Texas controls every ounce of the Big XII, but maybe they will. Apparently, the Big XII is getting something like $12 million more per school ($30 million) in comparison to the ACC ($18 million). If those two schoolss leave, then I'd look for us to get out quickly as well. Never envisioned the ACC being the conference that fell completely apart after the Big XII debacle just last year, but FSU and Clemson leaving the conference will start just that.

[IV_Hokie12]

will be joining the Big XII for 2013 and it will be announced by August 1st. I find it ridiculously hard to believe, given that Texas controls every ounce of the Big XII, but maybe they will. Apparently, the Big XII is getting something like $12 million more per school ($30 million) in comparison to the ACC ($18 million). If those two schoolss leave, then I'd look for us to get out quickly as well. Never envisioned the ACC being the conference that fell completely apart after the Big XII debacle just last year, but FSU and Clemson leaving the conference will start just that.

I highly doubt that FSU and Clemson would leave, but if they do better that they go to the Big 12. If they go to the SEC that could be disastrous for us. I'd expect us to move to the SEC shortly thereafter without those two as the ACC would be a joke of a football conference without them. Also as much as we rib the SEC for having low academic standards they are getting better. They are still behind the ACC, but 5 years ago most were listed as 3rd tier schools. Now of those are drastically improved, and you have the addition of Missouri and A&M. Both are very good schools.

[SWEETPEA 05]

I highly doubt that FSU and Clemson would leave, but if they do better that they go to the Big 12. If they go to the SEC that could be disastrous for us. I'd expect us to move to the SEC shortly thereafter without those two as the ACC would be a joke of a football conference without them. Also as much as we rib the SEC for having low academic standards they are getting better. They are still behind the ACC, but 5 years ago most were listed as 3rd tier schools. Now of those are drastically improved, and you have the addition of Missouri and A&M. Both are very good schools.

They did away with tiers thats why thy aren't third tier any longer. Mizzou is an ok school while A&M is a good school. The SEC is getting better but in the words of a VP at Tech we don't want to be associated with Tenn, Bama, South Carolina, Ole MIss, Miss State, LSU, etc.

[Fore Hokie's]

Yep, it would suck to have to upgrade facilities. Travel to see VT play in Knoxville,Columbia,Oxford would be awful. Competing against equally high quality Basketball would be terrible. Maybe VT would sell out those gawd awful indoor club seats

[2BurgsHokie]

I highly doubt that FSU and Clemson would leave, but if they do better that they go to the Big 12. If they go to the SEC that could be disastrous for us. I'd expect us to move to the SEC shortly thereafter without those two as the ACC would be a joke of a football conference without them. Also as much as we rib the SEC for having low academic standards they are getting better. They are still behind the ACC, but 5 years ago most were listed as 3rd tier schools. Now of those are drastically improved, and you have the addition of Missouri and A&M. Both are very good schools.

"Total Poppycock" The SEC ship has already sailed.

[East Cobb Hokie]

What was stated formally, was that "VT would not be the first school to leave the ACC" if anyone was to leave. FSU and/or Clemson leaving might well change that perspective with a new lean toward SEC. I don't think any ACC school leaves.

"Total Poppycock" The SEC ship has already sailed.

[IV_Hokie12]

What was stated formally, was that "VT would not be the first school to leave the ACC" if anyone was to leave. FSU and/or Clemson leaving might well change that perspective with a new lean toward SEC. I don't think any ACC school leaves.

^^^What he said^^^

[AXD1985]

What was stated formally, was that "VT would not be the first school to leave the ACC" if anyone was to leave. FSU and/or Clemson leaving might well change that perspective with a new lean toward SEC. I don't think any ACC school leaves.

Ppl forgetting the massive financial penalty that a school would have to pay too?

[Will Stewart]

Ppl forgetting the massive financial penalty that a school would have to pay too?

I don't know what the penalty is -- I can't recall it -- but even if it's $25 million to leave the ACC, let's do the math:

Big XII: $30 million per school
ACC: $18 million per school
Difference: $12 million

Years to pay off $25 million payout: 2.083333....

No contest.

Remember, FSU has a projected athletic department budget shortfall of $2.4 million.

[AXD1985]

I don't know what the penalty is -- I can't recall it -- but even if it's $25 million to leave the ACC, let's do the math:

Big XII: $30 million per school
ACC: $18 million per school
Difference: $12 million

Years to pay off $25 million payout: 2.083333....

No contest.

Remember, FSU has a projected athletic department budget shortfall of $2.4 million.

Don't think that's how it works though. Can't believe ACC would allow FSU to "pay it off" over the course of a few years. Money would probably be needed to be paid up front (unless FSU can snazz up a loan at a nice rate), and as you said, they have a shortfall of $2.4 million.

Plus, I really doubt FSU and Clemson would join the Big 12, of all the conferences.