Very interesting article for all those woried about JJ's lack of head coaching exp.

[DanNUandVT]

Coach K was an assistant under Bobby Knight and Roy Williams was an assistant under Dean Smith. That's a big difference than being an assistant under Seth Greenberg. I imagine that these two were among the top assistants in the nation at the time they took over at Duke and KU respectively. And neither just left a mediocre program to go to an equivalent conference rival and returned days later to be HC. I'm trying to be excited about this move. I'm just not there yet.

Mike Krzyzewski was a head coach at Army for 5 years between his stint as an assistant for Bobby Knight and being hired at Duke. Interestingly enough, Coach K's record at Army wasn't very far over .500 and he was coming off a losing season when hired at Duke. He also didn't have any NCAA appearances at Army.

[Hokie Bird 94]

Very interesting and very enlightening, indeed! I must say from experience (I have been posting with you since the "screaming Lizard" but my moniker has changed many times) that those who are negative about whatever will not have their attitudes adjusted by any real data or facts. They wallow in their negativism and seemingly love that gutter they live in. But I'm being very judgmental; they may be right in the end and JJ will be nothing more than a bitter disappointment. I do recall many of the same type of posts about a young coach named Beamer after an unmentioned disastrous season who proved them all wrong in the end. Lets hope JJ has that same type of "run"! I wish him nothing but the best and I hope all on these boards do the same.

Haha awesome! I hope you mean BBSs, as I don't think there was much message board traffic via Mosaic in 1992-3

[Gator Hokie]

Whatever. I suspect you'd go out of your way to feel miserable no matter what.

Not exactly a quality rebuttal.

[DGHOKIE]

He seems to have had a strong stint as Associate under a very demanding and knowledgeable Head Coach so I'm not all that concerned. Already showed some value by keeping and exciting the current players. Has the best chance, unless we had hired a Calipari-like coach, of any to keep one or two of the recruits for this season and the ones considering next year (we don't seem to have considered that class yet). I'm ok with it. I'll give it a 75, it's easy to dance to.

[HOKIERIT]

"I do recall many of the same type of posts about a young coach named Beamer"? I don't even think that the Internet was in mainstream use when Beamer was a young coach. But I get your point.

I remember questioning one of the people instrumental in HIRING Frank . Remember, it was a dark time and this was NOT Dave Braine, but an administrator who was VERY involved.

He told me we were lucky to have this Beamer dude. He told me we were lucky to GET a coach in light of all that was going on, and the present (back then) ho-hum status of our football success.
I couldn't help but remember that conversation more than once during this search....

I think JJ will be just FINE...He is IMO as solid a choice as ANY, and more so than most! Choosing a coach, even if you have your PICK is nothing more than an educated guess.

Two examples that stand out to me of programs who had their pick, and STILL had trouble are Alabama football post Bear, and unc basketball post Dean Smith! Those programs were in a position where they could pay any amount of money, and any young Turk would have been HAPPY to go there. They struggled through several iterations of coaching regimes before getting it right (that actually haunts me when thinking of Frank's eventual retirement as well).

JJ will be a good coach...or at least, JJ will have as good a chance as anyone!!

[48zip]

I remember questioning one of the people instrumental in HIRING Frank . Remember, it was a dark time and this was NOT Dave Braine, but an administrator who was VERY involved.

He told me we were lucky to have this Beamer dude. He told me we were lucky to GET a coach in light of all that was going on, and the present (back then) ho-hum status of our football success.
I couldn't help but remember that conversation more than once during this search....

I think JJ will be just FINE...He is IMO as solid a choice as ANY, and more so than most! Choosing a coach, even if you have your PICK is nothing more than an educated guess.

Two examples that stand out to me of programs who had their pick, and STILL had trouble are Alabama football post Bear, and unc basketball post Dean Smith! Those programs were in a position where they could pay any amount of money, and any young Turk would have been HAPPY to go there. They struggled through several iterations of coaching regimes before getting it right (that actually haunts me when thinking of Frank's eventual retirement as well).

JJ will be a good coach...or at least, JJ will have as good a chance as anyone!!

Well said!

[niemo21]

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I found this on TechHoops.com. Don't think they'd mind me linking it over here.

http://techhoops.com/2012/05/01/head...ce-in-the-acc/

[niemo21]

This was a 'just the facts' article. Wasn't meant to instill confidence or raise fears.
Second, as I said in the article, I think the 'BCS experience' is an indicator of early recruiting success, at least on a small sample. Guys like Brownell and Donahue have struggled to attract 4 and 5 star kids to date. No doubt they are going after big name guys for the first times in their career, and are having growing pains with that. Will that happen to JJ? We'll see - it is a bit different with him in that he's been at an ACC school for the last 5 years, whereas Brownell and Donahue were coming from 2nd and even 3rd tier schools. So you can't necessarily form a correlation there either. All just food for thought.

So...basically every other HC was experienced when they took their jobs. What value is there in differentiating between BCS and non BCS? Like Donahues 10 years want valuable? I expected an article that made me feel better, this just highlights JJs inexperience even more so.

[hokiebb67]

Honestly, I'm referring to the old "Screaming Lizard" site and I just don't recall the format; all I recall are the conversations on that site that could get quite heated like the current boards and our friend "Stud" was often in the middle of those discussions.

[Vippie1]

bet the list of those now selling insurance is longer

I found this on TechHoops.com. Don't think they'd mind me linking it over here.

http://techhoops.com/2012/05/01/head...ce-in-the-acc/