Just a general heads up to those perhaps longing for season tics......renewal of ...

[BigDave]

That just means that increased donations from the rich are offsetting declining (or no) donations from others. We've gone from where a few years ago, you had to give over $1000 to get a new season ticket order filled to now where non-donors potentially will get new season ticket orders filled. So the total number of customers is dropping, even though the smaller group of customers is shelling out more money.

That's not sustainable since if the bidding war starts to end, donations will gradually fall, but presumably the economy won't stay bad forever.

That really doesnt make sense since in December alone, the Hokie Club had a record month, I think it was like $14M just in December alone... if that amount isnt right, it was a record whatever the amount is. Seems like people were giving in hopes of better seats. Maybe it was mainly Golds and higher so the volume was up and that is the explanation. Will be interesting to see what they announce.

[GFallsFan]

If you don't mind telling, how much was your bump up? I only bumped up another $100. Wonder what the threshold would have been for me to at least stay even?

[Baltimore Hokie]

season tickets by previous seat holders ENDED LAST FRIDAY.

I went in person late last Thurs. Another long time season ticket holder was ahead of me. He told me he knew many people who were not going to renew their tickets due to various issues - primarily the aggrevation, $ Competition, and uncertainty of the reseating process.

After he left, I spoke with an agent concerning reseating concerns & picking order -having purchased season tickets for 44 yrs. The agent said we would have great opportunity to greatly improve seating location. I quieried as to why - mentioning my conversation with the previous customer. The agent agreed--- a lot of longtime holders really angry about the bidding war the reseating process invokes , the uncertainty of process, the schedule, etc....... I mentioned they still had 24 hrs for orders to come in. She indicated they must be in office by end of following day.... postmarks did not count. She felt people would be surprised at how good their selection options will be.

Sooo.....heres your chance. Once the renewers select their seats, a lot of first timers are going to have the opportunity for great seat locations.

With respect to renewers, I don't buy this. I don't think that the influx of folks who increased their giving level prior to December did so without plans to purchase season tix. Because there would be no incentive to do so otherwise.

[Ancient Hokie]

With respect to renewers, I don't buy this. I don't think that the influx of folks who increased their giving level prior to December did so without plans to purchase season tix. Because there would be no incentive to do so otherwise.

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Increase and sit out. There are so many better options.

[48zip]

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Increase and sit out. There are so many better options.

Here's my guess. Some who have held back in the past saw this as their time to move up, similar to the rush for the MNC seats. They jumped some of the prior season ticket holders. Those prior holders are tired of playing the game again, so they're bailing. The folks who stepped up and jumped the others probably could have done so for a lot less.

[ShortFatHokie]

Agreed. I am a Golden Hokie who substantially increased his giving last year and yet my priority score increased (became worse: not better). That would suggest a great deal of interest.

Hmmm...I'm a silver who slightly increased donation last year and I fell 300 spots. Maybe it is all the goldens who bumped up.

But even after giving my donation last year I almost didn't renew for a variety of reasons. Finally renewed at around 6:00pm the last day.

Maybe a lot of donors didn't purchase football tickets...

[keithh06]

I don't see that happening. The ACC gets a lot more money from television contracts than from butts in the seats I would think.

[Bleedin OandM]

If you don't mind telling, how much was your bump up? I only bumped up another $100. Wonder what the threshold would have been for me to at least stay even?

I bumped up within silver quite a bit. Whereas I met the minimum for silver before, I gave at the highest I could without being gold. So the contribution was almost double. But I will go back to minimum in future years.

[100%Hokie]

season tickets by previous seat holders ENDED LAST FRIDAY.

I went in person late last Thurs. Another long time season ticket holder was ahead of me. He told me he knew many people who were not going to renew their tickets due to various issues - primarily the aggrevation, $ Competition, and uncertainty of the reseating process.

After he left, I spoke with an agent concerning reseating concerns & picking order -having purchased season tickets for 44 yrs. The agent said we would have great opportunity to greatly improve seating location. I quieried as to why - mentioning my conversation with the previous customer. The agent agreed--- a lot of longtime holders really angry about the bidding war the reseating process invokes , the uncertainty of process, the schedule, etc....... I mentioned they still had 24 hrs for orders to come in. She indicated they must be in office by end of following day.... postmarks did not count. She felt people would be surprised at how good their selection options will be.

Sooo.....heres your chance. Once the renewers select their seats, a lot of first timers are going to have the opportunity for great seat locations.

That is just flat out wrong. The data is available and as I've posted before, there has been incredible growth in the Hokie Club since the last reseating. At the last reseating, the top ranked Golden was 1160. The top Golden Hokie is now 1750. That means that about 3,600 additional seats will be selected this time before the that individual picks their seat. Assuming same distance from the field, that person will lose at least 20 yards of field position. The math is the same up and down the rankings. The top platinum is now 1207. At the last reseating, the top Platinum was 776.

I know Golden Champions that fell more than 200 spots in the rankings just between September 2011 and 12/31/2011.

There is absolutely no way that people are going to "greatly improve seating location" unless they greatly increased their contribution.

[48zip]

That is just flat out wrong. The data is available and as I've posted before, there has been incredible growth in the Hokie Club since the last reseating. At the last reseating, the top ranked Golden was 1160. The top Golden Hokie is now 1750. That means that about 3,600 additional seats will be selected this time before the that individual picks their seat. Assuming same distance from the field, that person will lose at least 20 yards of field position. The math is the same up and down the rankings. The top platinum is now 1207. At the last reseating, the top Platinum was 776.

I know Golden Champions that fell more than 200 spots in the rankings just between September 2011 and 12/31/2011.

There is absolutely no way that people are going to "greatly improve seating location" unless they greatly increased their contribution.

Again, you are assuming all donors buy max tickets. They don't. Some don't buy any. Some may buy fewer! DOes your "data" address any of that?