A question for Hubman and a few other folks who have brought up the Curry kids lately

[Cvillehoops13]

Lets pretend that VT is out of scholarships right now for next year.

What would you do if I told you that right now there are two sons of VT all-time greats who are High School seniors in ACC area states? Should VT drop scholarship offers to Harrell and Wood to offer them? Should VT offer them as walk-ons? I'm dead serious about this.

I'll give you a little bit of info about each. The first is a tweener, he's maybe a shade over 6 feet tall but right now is a shooting guard all the way. He has struggled in his high school career on the ball and with physical competition. He has a strong outside shot, but against competition that has been able to force him to go to the rim he has been turnover prone. When forced to play the role of a true point guard, even against weaker competition, he has struggled and it's questionable right now if he'll be able to play that spot at the low major level. He has moderate interest from low-major programs, though most are unsure of his college position. He's a double-digit scorer at around 18 per the last couple years. Given his father's height he may grow another inch or two.

The second player is around 5'10 and is a true point guard with a decent outside shot scoring around 16 per but with a good assist number. His competition level also isn't the highest but he has a thicker build than the first player and handles contact better. His athleticism is good and has younger teammates he has done a good job setting up on the season. With his father's height it's conceivable he could hit a significant growth spurt. His downside at the college level right now mostly appears to be his size. His recruitment has started later than the first player but he is receiving low-major interest as well.

So what should Seth do? Drop the offer to Wood/Harrell? Offer the kids at walk-ons? Not recruit them at all? Fwiw Greenberg has seen both play.

[Hubman]

Lets pretend that VT is out of scholarships right now for next year.

What would you do if I told you that right now there are two sons of VT all-time greats who are High School seniors in ACC area states? Should VT drop scholarship offers to Harrell and Wood to offer them? Should VT offer them as walk-ons? I'm dead serious about this.

I'll give you a little bit of info about each. The first is a tweener, he's maybe a shade over 6 feet tall but right now is a shooting guard all the way. He has struggled in his high school career on the ball and with physical competition. He has a strong outside shot, but against competition that has been able to force him to go to the rim he has been turnover prone. When forced to play the role of a true point guard, even against weaker competition, he has struggled and it's questionable right now if he'll be able to play that spot at the low major level. He has moderate interest from low-major programs, though most are unsure of his college position. He's a double-digit scorer at around 18 per the last couple years. Given his father's height he may grow another inch or two.

The second player is around 5'10 and is a true point guard with a decent outside shot scoring around 16 per but with a good assist number. His competition level also isn't the highest but he has a thicker build than the first player and handles contact better. His athleticism is good and has younger teammates he has done a good job setting up on the season. With his father's height it's conceivable he could hit a significant growth spurt. His downside at the college level right now mostly appears to be his size. His recruitment has started later than the first player but he is receiving low-major interest as well.

So what should Seth do? Drop the offer to Wood/Harrell? Offer the kids at walk-ons? Not recruit them at all? Fwiw Greenberg has seen both play.

We can go down this road all you want. As I said last night, everyone in the country misplayed Curry. Everyone basically thought the same thing about him, and they were too scared to risk a scholly because of his physcial attributes.

The problem with this scenario is, Virginia Tech is not "everyone". Virginia Tech just happens to be the school where the kid's father not only starred, but is the HISTORIC star of the entire program. Fair or not, CSG had to play the situation differently than any other coach in the country.

With that said, CSG did in fact play it differently than most coaches. He offered something that most other big name schools were not even willing to offer. For that reason, he gets credit for giving Curry something that most coaches wouldn't even consider, and for at least trying to land Curry here in Blacksburg.

All I am saying is, you have to offer the kid a scholarship outright. I would have to do a cost benefit analysis on the situation, which I am sure CSG did (in some capacity). Obviously Stephen did not appear out of nowhere his senior year of high school. He was there all along, but as you said, he had physical limitations. In my mind, if you have to choose between an Appleton/Munson type that, at the time, had a higher "ceiling" and Curry that, at the time, was a good ball player that was the son of Virginia Tech's All-Time Mr. Basketball (and older brother of other basketball playing brothers), I choose Curry.

Now, all of this is 20/20 hindsight, and what is done is done. I, personally, have never even faulted Seth for it. In this business, you have to make tough decisions, and he made one based on the potential of the other kids. Fine. However, we cannot simply say he had NO opportunity to give Stephen a scholarship. He did, as did all of the other schools in the NCAA. Whereas, it doesn't matter to anyone if UVA passed on Stephen, it matters a ton that VT passed on him.

It's just the reality of the situation. Fair or not, it will still be part of CSG's legacy at VT. As I said, the ship has sailed for me, so I am not mad at CSG; however, you cannot ignore the fact that it did happen, and it lead to us not having a chance at his brother.

I hope this clears up my stance. FWIW, I was not the guy that brought up the Curry thing, nor was I the guy talking smack about CSG because of the Curry thing. The Curry thing to me is what it is. It's over and done, but it still happened.......

[King of Hokies]

All I am saying is, you have to offer the kid a scholarship outright.

Way to avoid the question! But your hindsight statement is that Greenberg HAD to offer a scholarship. So you must be saying we should drop Harrell and Wood both in order to offer schollys to the two legacies.

[Groff]

Way to avoid the question! But your hindsight statement is that Greenberg HAD to offer a scholarship. So you must be saying we should drop Harrell and Wood both in order to offer schollys to the two legacies.

Not really because he's saying that Dell Curry's son is a special exception.

Does Dell Curry have two more sons that we don't know about?

[WestEndHokie39]

See, here is where you and Hubman lose all credibility as any kind of objective analyst.

[Hubman]

See, here is where you and Hubman lose all credibility as any kind of objective analyst.

Did you forget to write the rest of the post? I thought you were going to explain why I have lost all credibility because of what I wrote............or was it just a blanket "you have no credibility" post?

[WestEndHokie39]

The Steph Curry recruiting situation has been rehashed on this board ad infinitum. The good Rev Zeke Vodka, who scouted Curry and watched him play many times, has posted detailed descriptions of Curry's technique and limitations at the time we would have offered him.

He doesn't fault Seth at all. To try to bash Seth with this issue is simply ridiculous, and a pretty telling sign that the poster has an agenda.

[Hubman]

The Steph Curry recruiting situation has been rehashed on this board ad infinitum. The good Rev Zeke Vodka, who scouted Curry and watched him play many times, has posted detailed descriptions of Curry's technique and limitations at the time we would have offered him.

He doesn't fault Seth at all. To try to bash Seth with this issue is simply ridiculous, and a pretty telling sign that the poster has an agenda.

Who are you speaking to? Who bashed Seth in this thread? I am confused by your posts.

[Wandering_Hokie]

See, here is where you and Hubman lose all credibility as any kind of objective analyst.

This thread doesn't flow for me because I have some key participants on "ignore" status. But, it doesn't aggravate me either and that indicates that I am ignoring the right posters.

[Hubman]

This thread doesn't flow for me because I have some key participants on "ignore" status. But, it doesn't aggravate me either and that indicates that I am ignoring the right posters.

It's not a bad thread at all, so I can't really figure out where he is coming from.......