Cville/Rev - Jeff Capel

[Red Hokie]

What do you think about Jeff Capel as a future HC? He recruited well at OU but didn't have great results in the end. IMO after a few years learning under Coach K he could be a steal for some team. I would be interested to hear your thoughts?

I think VT may have to take a chance on a guy, like Capel or Majurus at St. Louis to get great results. I just don't see someone with any leverage (Smart, Marshall, etc.) taking the VT job when they have other big time options.

Thanks!

[StudentHokie]

What do you think about Jeff Capel as a future HC? He recruited well at OU but didn't have great results in the end. IMO after a few years learning under Coach K he could be a steal for some team. I would be interested to hear your thoughts?

OU ended up on probabation as a result of actions that occurred during Capel's watch. I don't know that it was directly as a result of his actions, but I think it would be tough to justify hiring someone with even the hint of impropriety.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...men-basketball

[Hubman]

OU ended up on probabation as a result of actions that occurred during Capel's watch. I don't know that it was directly as a result of his actions, but I think it would be tough to justify hiring someone with even the hint of impropriety.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...men-basketball

I don't disagree with you, but, why not hire somebody like that? If no coach in America wants to come to VT to coach because it is the butthole of the world, then maybe we hire someone who has a ton of promise, but is being punished by the masses for having a bit of a jaded past..........and I am not just talking about Capel.........

[StudentHokie]

I don't disagree with you, but, why not hire somebody like that? If no coach in America wants to come to VT to coach because it is the butthole of the world,

I guess I don't agree with that assessment of our program. I think that perception has developed as a result of CVille's conversations with various coaches in the profession, but that's entirely abstract.

We haven't hired a basketball coach since March 2003 and so much has changed in nine years. We are in the ACC, a more compatible league for us, for one thing. That has led to better (albeit decreasing) attendance, an increased budget, better facilities, and a different recruiting footprint. Whether you like Seth or not, you have to admit that he's built us into a credible program and has shown other coaches that you can win here and make postseason play.

Maybe we the "butthole" of college basketball; I don't know. But I just don't think our program is so bad that we need to take a flier on a coach who's skirted with NCAA violations. It just doesn't seem necessary to me.

[Hubman]

I guess I don't agree with that assessment of our program. I think that perception has developed as a result of CVille's conversations with various coaches in the profession, but that's entirely abstract.

We haven't hired a basketball coach since March 2003 and so much has changed in nine years. We are in the ACC, a more compatible league for us, for one thing. That has led to better (albeit decreasing) attendance, an increased budget, better facilities, and a different recruiting footprint. Whether you like Seth or not, you have to admit that he's built us into a credible program and has shown other coaches that you can win here and make postseason play.

Maybe we the "butthole" of college basketball; I don't know. But I just don't think our program is so bad that we need to take a flier on a coach who's skirted with NCAA violations. It just doesn't seem necessary to me.

I agree with you.

[Groff]

I am so running with the "butthole of college basketball" thing. I love it.

But yeah, apparently thats exactly what we are. Too far away from "population centers." Making the tournament more than twice a decade is an "unreasonable expectation." VT basketball fans need to learn to shut up and know their role.

I guess I don't agree with that assessment of our program. I think that perception has developed as a result of CVille's conversations with various coaches in the profession, but that's entirely abstract.

We haven't hired a basketball coach since March 2003 and so much has changed in nine years. We are in the ACC, a more compatible league for us, for one thing. That has led to better (albeit decreasing) attendance, an increased budget, better facilities, and a different recruiting footprint. Whether you like Seth or not, you have to admit that he's built us into a credible program and has shown other coaches that you can win here and make postseason play.

Maybe we the "butthole" of college basketball; I don't know. But I just don't think our program is so bad that we need to take a flier on a coach who's skirted with NCAA violations. It just doesn't seem necessary to me.

[SteveInBaltimore]

I am so running with the "butthole of college basketball" thing. I love it.

But yeah, apparently thats exactly what we are. Too far away from "population centers." Making the tournament more than twice a decade is an "unreasonable expectation." VT basketball fans need to learn to shut up and know their role.

No, it's not an unreasonable expectation. I expect it too. I just don't want to fire the coach who came INCREDIBLY close to making it more than twice in a decade despite a spate of injuries and questionable decisions by the committee. At least not until we see what this latest recruiting class turns out like. And judging players careers based on how they play as freshman is simply idiotic.

[Cvillehoops13]

I guess I don't agree with that assessment of our program. I think that perception has developed as a result of CVille's conversations with various coaches in the profession, but that's entirely abstract.

We haven't hired a basketball coach since March 2003 and so much has changed in nine years. We are in the ACC, a more compatible league for us, for one thing. That has led to better (albeit decreasing) attendance, an increased budget, better facilities, and a different recruiting footprint. Whether you like Seth or not, you have to admit that he's built us into a credible program and has shown other coaches that you can win here and make postseason play.

Maybe we the "butthole" of college basketball; I don't know. But I just don't think our program is so bad that we need to take a flier on a coach who's skirted with NCAA violations. It just doesn't seem necessary to me.

Of course VT doesn't need to take a chance on a coach who has committed NCAA violations, and of course VT isn't the "butthole" of college basketball - that perception has nothing to do with my comments on anything - it has EVERYTHING to do with a few posters on this board who go ballistic anytime you point out that there are obstacles to this job and that things are as simple as they'd like to believe.

[Hamburger]

Of course VT doesn't need to take a chance on a coach who has committed NCAA violations, and of course VT isn't the "butthole" of college basketball - that perception has nothing to do with my comments on anything - it has EVERYTHING to do with a few posters on this board who go ballistic anytime you point out that there are obstacles to this job and that things are as simple as they'd like to believe.

You are just pointing out reality. I love Va Tech with all my heart but at the same time, I like yourself know the obstacles. It's not putting down the school, it's just the way it is.

[Newt]

Of course VT doesn't need to take a chance on a coach who has committed NCAA violations, and of course VT isn't the "butthole" of college basketball - that perception has nothing to do with my comments on anything - it has EVERYTHING to do with a few posters on this board who go ballistic anytime you point out that there are obstacles to this job and that things are as simple as they'd like to believe.

I understand your view and frustration with the social nature of "The Board." However, "a few posters" are merely speaking out as individuals in a whole system. To single those out and dwell on their views in lieu of the majority of the base is irresponsible. Learning to listen and absorb what others write while not taking offense is an important adult 21st century social skill.

My advice to you, friend, is to speak what you know to be true if you wish. Listen to all and try to understand from where they are coming. But understand that not everybody every time will agree with you.

Personally, I hope you continue to post.

Respectfully,

Newt (real, full name available upon request)

PS Our greatest training ground is the UWS Board...those *&^% are just *&#$%^& *&%(*