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- Will Stewart Fri Nov 30 2012 12:02 PM

VT-UVA In-Game Thread - Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:06 PM

OK. If there is one referndum on Seth as a coach, look at what we do out of a... - Maroon Effect Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

Teams take on the personality of their coach. When you see how pressured Seth... - TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:27 PM

let's see how many times we can pass before we turn it over

- Hokie'79 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:08 PM

or let's give them this game; we already gave them a free 3 pts

- Hokie'79 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

I can't even express how pissed off I am. Whatever plays we draw up at the end... - MExpos27 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:07 PM

The only play to call was for Green to penetrate get a layup or foul, no need... - TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:11 PM

Exactly. VT had the advantage in OT. Unfortunately, in-game coaching isn't... - InsaneHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:13 PM

So...Eddie loses control of the ball and Finney-Smith throws it directly to a... - beedubyah Tue Feb 21 2012 11:11 PM

Relax. Buncha younguns out there. Like was posted above.... The best thing... - Hokie CPA Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

another brilliant Seth last shot play. Piss poor

- Wild Turkey Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

Don't even get off a shot, no one is looking to score. UNBELIEVABLE !

- VT75 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

Brilliant post.. really. Seth scripted in the dribble off the leg and the... - GothamHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

He called the apparent 3-pt play which doesn't make much sense. I don't know... - CalvinBall Tue Feb 21 2012 11:18 PM

Come on dude

- hokieshade Tue Feb 21 2012 11:08 PM

No shot - come on

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

What happened to the 3 that was past the shot clock? They said it could be... - bsalta Tue Feb 21 2012 11:07 PM

no...shot clock can only be replayed in "end of game" situations....as in the... - JoesterVT Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

Freshmen- God I'm glad they become sophmores

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

I laughed. Seriously though, it's been kinda fun watching these guys grow up... - Bleedin OandM Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

For sure...UVA is so screwed without Mike Scott...I just wish I was still in... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:10 PM

Still going to be well coached, play great D, and be in ball games. If you... - SayWhat? Tue Feb 21 2012 11:23 PM

I don't want the ball. You take the ball. I don't want it

- TexasGobbler Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

Once again...coaching. It is so freaking frustrating to watch their effort... - InsaneHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:08 PM

The last offensive iwas horrible just horrible

- HokieJamie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

Oh well, pretty good series against Uva-C. They got lucky in the end

- Bleedin OandM Tue Feb 21 2012 11:05 PM

Yikes! Need better ball handling.

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

Seriously, dude. NO bow ties.

- TexasGobbler Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

Williams is right- Green takes it to the hoop...

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

go to the hoop

- Hokie'79 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

WTH is wrong with our clock!!! Embarassing

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:02 PM

The refs gave them 3 free points, the clock keeper gave us 3 free time outs

- JoesterVT Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

I always made sure to practice shooting my TOs :)

- ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:01 PM

cardiac kids!

- Hokie'79 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:57 PM

Schnikes! Hubman was right- GT with only 37 points...wow!

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:57 PM

I thought we were bad on O.........

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:58 PM

Over the back on the rebound!!!!

- BayHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:03 PM

We'd be up 1 if we made all our FTs down the stretch. UVA to the line up... - nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 11:00 PM

Up by 4 if UVA 3 wasnt counted

- JustinVT85 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:02 PM

What is DFS DOING?

- JustinVT85 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:05 PM

We had nobody within 20 feet of the basket with 2 seconds left?

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

Two missed front-ends by UVA! VT ball down 61-59 w/ 17.6!

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 11:03 PM

So if this score holds up does VT win by 1?

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

Why doesnt green drive more throughout the game

- JustinVT85 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:56 PM

Wish the refs hadn't blown that 3 point bank shot a second late

- TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:54 PM

Dang- Green and Hud letting us down at the free throw line again

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:52 PM

We still have not made a field goal since the 12 minute mark..........how can... - Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:54 PM

they're worn out

- JoesterVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:53 PM

Sorry - not buying that

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:54 PM

Then you are clueless about this team. These kids are worn out. too many close... - Hokiefan5 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:11 PM

5 games in 12 days...mostly all buzzer beaters? Not to mention that Hudson's... - JoesterVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:56 PM

It is also the 6th game in 17 days. That is about 1 game every 3 days. And... - Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:00 PM

What is your point?

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 11:01 PM

Fatigue should not be an excuse.

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

Wow, it looks like there was finally a clock error that wasn't in our favor by... - nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 11:01 PM

I don't think the refs trust our clock operators any more. And I don't blame... - nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 11:02 PM

your the coach......what do you do or not do.....

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 11:03 PM

Tony Bennett is reaching Coach Dream territory....my hero by the way...I Love... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:03 PM

Game reset? Score, time

- Hokie CPA Tue Feb 21 2012 10:54 PM

down 3 with the ball....half minute

- JoesterVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:57 PM

Wonder if these shot clock "issues" are actually legit.

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:54 PM

2 HUGE missed FTs!!!!!!

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:52 PM

...and Brown missed a pair earlier when we had the lead to help UVa get back in... - Maroon Baboon Tue Feb 21 2012 10:55 PM

Evans out and Zieglinski has 4

- TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

Did they just say the shot clock violation will be checked at the end of the... - Jerseyhokie29 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:48 PM

Sorry didnt' read the inside of your post. Dunno why the board automatically... - Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:50 PM

From Wiki: "The officials may also check if the shot was made before the... - Nate23VT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:52 PM

No, they were referring to game clock

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

When your team keeps shooting outside jumpshots...that is coaching...

- VAHokie89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:47 PM

Without Davila we don't have a post player that can score on the block. Raines... - HokieJamie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:02 PM

Wow, clock doesn't work and now the TV monitor isn't working. Is the VTTO in... - Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:02 PM

No that is execution or rather the lack of being able to execute what is... - amptech Tue Feb 21 2012 10:51 PM

We just keep running the shot clock down without attacking, and then you're... - nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:52 PM

Exactly, they are getting beat man on man and are giving it their best. ... - amptech Tue Feb 21 2012 10:57 PM

Jesus free throws!!!!,

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:52 PM

Careful. We have the best coaching. Ever. - Maroon Effect Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

Why do tools like you have to make assclowns of yourselves in here? Don't you... - Hokiefan5 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:14 PM

Not on offense. Seth slows his team down too much at crunch time.

- mic4tech Tue Feb 21 2012 10:51 PM

He hasn't tonight...players just stopped driving the ball

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:53 PM

WE need to fouuuulu

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:56 PM

VT ball down 61-58 36.1 seconds.

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:57 PM

Free throws.........

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 11:00 PM

Are we in freaking Pee Wee league with this clock BS. My ****.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:02 PM

UGH I HATE when Seth calls TOs in these situations.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:57 PM

Seth told them to stop doing what was working? That is bad coaching...

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:48 PM

Wow- that three shouldn't have counted?

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:46 PM

How do they not review that shot????

- VTUprising Tue Feb 21 2012 10:48 PM

And why do we have replay again? ACC officiating a comedy of errors

- Maroon Baboon Tue Feb 21 2012 10:48 PM

Glad we have the home court calls going our way....Oh way...never mind.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:47 PM

Was that anywhere near off in time? I was looking at :00 before he shot that I... - Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:45 PM

Not reviewable until end of game...per whoevr

- hokieshade Tue Feb 21 2012 10:48 PM

So it should be a tie game right now! We've had that old grey haired ref way... - mic4tech Tue Feb 21 2012 10:58 PM

Scott was so "over the back" on that rebound.

- mic4tech Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

OK, so we win by one. Oh, that's right the refs blew it, along with our... - mic4tech Tue Feb 21 2012 11:14 PM

Anyone know how that review works?

- 4x4hokies Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

Nope. Violation. Missed call. Crap.

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:46 PM

We may set an NCAA record for lack of field goals in a half if we are not... - Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:47 PM

Hey- we start driving the ball again and good things happen! So why do our... - WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:50 PM

Good to see UVa not running the shot clock down on that last possession.

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:50 PM

Pretty dumb by Zyglinski there.

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:51 PM

Meh...we knew what we had coming into this game...not too much on the paint... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

I thought so...

- WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:47 PM

Dribble drive? we look sick on offense now

- vtox1 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:43 PM

Ugh. Jump ball?

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:41 PM

Please just one more W over Wahoo State University

- DarylS Tue Feb 21 2012 10:43 PM

Really wish we could play a game without going on 9 min scoring slump

- JustinVT85 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:40 PM

When things go wrong for VT they really go wrong

- JustinVT85 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:45 PM

If we could have made 2 shots in that 9 min drought, we would be tied. Just... - JustinVT85 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:53 PM

so are our clock operators stopping the clock in protest of the horrible missed... - VTSnake Tue Feb 21 2012 10:55 PM

We've been outrebounded by 8 this game, which certainly hasn't helped.

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:56 PM

If the zebras had properly called the shot clock violation, we'd be down 1.

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:55 PM

@CPA -- 61-57 38.6 left, Green to the line to finish off an old-school 3 point... - nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:56 PM

Yeah, it seems when the wheels come off for VT they pretty much roll over the... - Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:46 PM

Missed shot clock violation is reviewable at the end of the game? Huh, hows... - Nate23VT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:48 PM

Yea, so they can take 3 points off after the clock hits 0:00? Could be an... - msevt Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

absolutely no F'ing excuse for blowing that call and not reviewing

- Wild Turkey Tue Feb 21 2012 10:47 PM

scoreless for 8:25

- TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:40 PM

Don't worry all...our once per game 10 minute drought is just about over

- JoesterVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:37 PM

that should be game

- TRDHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:37 PM

8 minutes - no FG

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:36 PM

Do the coaches even know what a screen is? They are not going to the basket AT... - PennHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:40 PM

That's Garbage coaching, plain and simple! They couldn't stop Green and you... - PennHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

I will now drink myself to sleep.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:07 PM

also glad that three counted when the shot clock was clearly zero...although... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:08 PM

lol at this team.

- CalvinBall Tue Feb 21 2012 11:09 PM

I love the 3 man weave call at the 3 point line to end the game...another... - InsaneHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 11:10 PM

This might be the worst offense I've ever seen for a Division 1 basketball team.

- MExpos27 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:42 PM

[QUOTE=MExpos27;232572]This might be the worst offense I've ever seen for a... - Hokiefan5 Tue Feb 21 2012 11:18 PM

Can't score - can't win

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:38 PM

Have to have a bucket here.

- AbsolutVT69 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:37 PM

UVa up 7 now. Need a run or it's lights out.

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:37 PM

UVA on 14-2 run, Hokies need a stop and a basket

- TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:34 PM

Neither is victor, he averages 1.5 per game

- ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:34 PM

almost a 7 minute scoring drought while uva goes on an 11-0 run. The wheels... - AnotherTechW Tue Feb 21 2012 10:33 PM

Hokies look tired and lazy

- TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:32 PM

5th game in 12 days have anything to do with it ya think??

- FBRGHOKIEFAN Tue Feb 21 2012 10:34 PM

It shouldn't. It's UVa's 5th game in 13 days. Our conditioning is a bit... - reestuart Tue Feb 21 2012 11:06 PM

i tend to agree with you on that. same story every year:it seems like VT team... - FBRGHOKIEFAN Tue Feb 21 2012 11:14 PM

I don't know what's going on. Rankin was sucking wind in the 1st half. Raines... - reestuart Wed Feb 22 2012 11:11 AM

That's the big negative of those early-season/preseason injuries.

- Nova Hokie 95 Wed Feb 22 2012 11:18 AM

Not sure I agree. We've gone 9 deep most of the year. We've had plenty of... - reestuart Wed Feb 22 2012 11:55 AM

No doubt. We have just as many healthy guys as UVA.

- Chris Coleman Wed Feb 22 2012 11:13 AM

uva ratcheting up the D

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:32 PM

We have stopped moving on offense like we were in the first half. Just standing... - ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:32 PM

Why are we just jacking up threes?

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:32 PM

Brain farts come first; bad decisions; wrong people shooting; - Blue Ridge Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:34 PM

man amazing how many people show up when things go sour lol.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:36 PM

OK;smart a, tell me what's not true above

- Blue Ridge Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:40 PM

Also nice to see now that UVA has a 7 point lead theyll start calling fouls on... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:38 PM

Are you referring to me? I just got home from class. Pardon me

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:37 PM

lol no I was referring to the 20 posts in one minute after we started crapping... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:39 PM

GT scored 37 points tonight......at home.......

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:42 PM

Jump Ball? Really? You really going to call that? My ****ing lanta.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:41 PM

because we have NO freaking offensive philosophy. We let guys receive passes... - InsaneHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:34 PM

Yes I rather see them run....No offence when working the clock

- Beach Music Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:40 PM

Not that one ...

- ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

WTH just happend the past 2 minutes?

- reece4vt Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

Got Stagnant and Seth waited 3 possessions too long to call a timeout and put... - danville hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:34 PM

Haven't had a good possession in about 10 minutes.

- Maroon Baboon Tue Feb 21 2012 10:33 PM

We've lapsed back into being content to pass the ball around under pressure 25... - Hokiestud Tue Feb 21 2012 10:33 PM

Well, we WERE playing well. Our shot selection the last five possessions has... - Hokiestud Tue Feb 21 2012 10:30 PM

very good passing at times tonight.

- CHEQM8 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:28 PM

The number of brain farts we commit is amazing. Our offense has been pretty... - nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

Freshmen with poor shot selection, lazy passes, low energy.

- hokieshade Tue Feb 21 2012 10:33 PM

Need a run......

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:33 PM

Need to work on our hand-offs, though.

- DanNUandVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

not that time.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

Someone say something about wheels falling off?

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:30 PM

That was one lazy-ass pass by Hudson right there.

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:30 PM

such a senior play....awful

- Wild Turkey Tue Feb 21 2012 10:35 PM

that wasn't even f-ing close. Complete BS call

- VTSnake Tue Feb 21 2012 10:46 PM

Horrible foul!

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:35 PM

Terrible substitutions by Seth. Where has Raines been put him in.

- InsaneHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

seriously what half assed play from a senior. Most guys in pick up games have... - Manbearpig Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

Ha ha.. now they call a push off.

- AbsolutVT69 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:32 PM

Please don't let the wheels come off.

- TexasGobbler Tue Feb 21 2012 10:26 PM

Seth needs to get Brown out of the ball game. He needs to work on his foul... - InsaneHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:28 PM

And get Hudson out too...

- JoesterVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:31 PM

Apparently the refs aren't calling moving screens today.

- Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:27 PM

Of course not, Jeff Allen is not in the game.

- DanNUandVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:33 PM

Win or lose, I'm very pleased with how we are playing tonight.

- Hokiestud Tue Feb 21 2012 10:24 PM

Stud - we haven't even started the 4th qtr yet :)

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:26 PM

4th quarter?

- neworleanshoo Tue Feb 21 2012 10:42 PM

i.e. - the last 10 minutes :)

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

the football analogy was intentional!

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:49 PM

hoping for our sake the football analogies end there ;)

- neworleanshoo Tue Feb 21 2012 10:55 PM

I know. But we look like a competent, fundamentally sound team tonight. Let's... - Hokiestud Tue Feb 21 2012 10:28 PM

How is that not GT?

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:21 PM

I was about to blow a gasket myself like Seth...but looks like right call in... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:22 PM

Nevermind. Goofy TV angle

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:21 PM

EG talking some junk

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:20 PM

Finally calling some fouls on uva!

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:21 PM

Why does some fan throw something every time we play UVA at home - HokieJamie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:19 PM

only takes 1 idiot...

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:22 PM

Tied the game with Scott on the bench.....ugh.....

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:27 PM

How is Brown so bad at FT's? He should shoot a jumper.....

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:26 PM

I have to admit, if I were a UVA fan at the game, I'd see if I could get away... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:24 PM

Yeah, I posted in another thread that WVU's fans got called for a technical... - Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:25 PM

One idiot that only shows up when we play UVA. Hmmmm.

- VTECHFAN Tue Feb 21 2012 10:23 PM

Gotta say, our crowd is sounding better than most games I've watched this... - VTDisksleuth Tue Feb 21 2012 10:17 PM

uh-oh - sammy out of his slump

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:16 PM

DFS playing much stronger with the ball! makes all the difference

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:15 PM

Compare that to uva...i like our chances the next couple years

- ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:13 PM

Yep, UVA has: 0, 2, 2, 4, 5, 6, 6, 17 (guess who).

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:16 PM

EG getting hot!

- Sputnik Tue Feb 21 2012 10:13 PM

I new but excited to be on board. Any chance we go to the NIT this year.

- HokieMike94 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:13 PM

No, we are going to win the ACCT and go to the NCAAs.

- JRHokie73 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:23 PM

Yes need to beat the Hoos and win one more

- TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:15 PM

What the F is ESPN doing?

- HokiePride81 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:06 PM

Since we can't get screwed out of an NCAA bid this year, instead they are... - BigDave Tue Feb 21 2012 10:09 PM

Very balanced scoring by VT this game. Everyone who has played has scored. Here... - Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 10:12 PM

Yes, VT vs. Mike Scott

- Hubman Tue Feb 21 2012 10:13 PM

Figures that flippin Zeglinski shows up tonight. Such a goofy little kid.

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:15 PM

ESPN 3 has the game BTW if you all are blocked out on ESPN U

- bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:12 PM

Get this shirt off the tv! Anyone who cares is watching online

- ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:05 PM

I'm so glad we get to watch this tedious Maryland freethrow shooting exhibition!

- nvpbrown Tue Feb 21 2012 10:06 PM

Is there some reason ESPNU isn't showing the second half???

- BigDave Tue Feb 21 2012 10:04 PM

Hmm, I thought I tuned into the VT-UVA game... appears that ESPNU forgot what... - VTECHFAN Tue Feb 21 2012 10:04 PM

I wonder where Lunardi has DSU rated after the first half.

- Newt Tue Feb 21 2012 09:54 PM

I'll be back in a minute, going to get a broom

- TabbHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:52 PM

Very solid, well-played game so far by both teams. This was one of the best... - Hokiestud Tue Feb 21 2012 09:50 PM

We are playing well for sure. I just hope we aren't playing over our heads,... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:53 PM

What timeout call? Must have missed that on the ESPN broadcast, surprised they... - Nate23VT Tue Feb 21 2012 09:56 PM

usually I get mad when TV stations make me miss VT sports, but watching this... - VTSnake Tue Feb 21 2012 10:03 PM

The time call was when the uva player was falling out of bounds and was trying... - MVT Tue Feb 21 2012 10:03 PM

okay this miami maryland game is over, put the game back on please espnu

- vtmatt04 Tue Feb 21 2012 10:04 PM

We need Mr. Miyagi to give Davila "the rub" and have him come out in the second... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:54 PM

UVA has absolutely NOTHING other than Scott. Incredible...game would be a blow... - reece4vt Tue Feb 21 2012 09:47 PM

Agree. Scott is a heckuva player and Evans is a punk. Can't stand that kid. ... - InsaneHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:52 PM

The only weakness he has shown so far is the ability to pass out of the double... - BayHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:51 PM

You did, that was some more BS

- ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:45 PM

Halftime VT35 UVA 32. UVA shooting 68% while VT shooting 55% (but 6-9 from... - Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:47 PM

Hokies 31-25 2:20

- Bleedin OandM Tue Feb 21 2012 09:41 PM

Mike Scott is a beast

- vtmatt04 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:45 PM

make up call

- TRDHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:41 PM

Maybe I was seeing things, but I could have sworn I saw the ref called a charge.

- VTSnake Tue Feb 21 2012 09:43 PM

He did - overruled by the outside ref

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:47 PM

How was there no call when DFS got shoved!

- ME Hokie 07 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:32 PM

Rankin making some very nice passes to the wing

- Glen Allen Hokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:32 PM

He's hit some big shots too.

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:33 PM

VT 29 UVA 21 with 3:46 left in the 1st half. UVA getting ready to shoot 2 FT's.

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:36 PM

Not to mention the announcers - VTECHFAN Tue Feb 21 2012 09:40 PM

They're letting UVA rape our players on some of these plays...the very same... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:22 PM

Have we only made 3 pointers so far??

- vtmatt04 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:30 PM

Brown, Green, and Barksdale have 2-point shots.

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:32 PM

Already hit the mute button. This is the Mike Scott BJ-Fest

- VT 313 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:13 PM

i am listening to Bill and Mike online

- FBRGHOKIEFAN Tue Feb 21 2012 09:14 PM

105.3thebear.com is your friend for games like this!!

- FBRGHOKIEFAN Tue Feb 21 2012 09:19 PM

Both teams shooting over 50%. VT at 54% and UVA a blistering 64%, but we've... - Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:28 PM

Seth has a handsome tie on this evening.

- BayHokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:31 PM

refs screwed us royally on that shot clock 3. No excuse at all for that. Total... - Wild Turkey Tue Feb 21 2012 10:55 PM

Sure wish I knew why my posts showed up in random spots. I am finding this... - Wild Turkey Tue Feb 21 2012 11:02 PM

Should just go with linear view in this format, especially in these game... - Hokie CPA Tue Feb 21 2012 11:04 PM

now we get to see our teams bball IQ come thru

- Wild Turkey Tue Feb 21 2012 10:36 PM

Is he biting his nails? That is so unsightly

- DGHOKIE Tue Feb 21 2012 09:47 PM

Score?

- Hokie CPA Tue Feb 21 2012 09:30 PM

27-21 good guys. 5:35 left in half.

- Nortazhokie Tue Feb 21 2012 09:31 PM

can you post link?

- SaeVTfan1 Tue Feb 21 2012 09:19 PM

Link

- MVT Tue Feb 21 2012 09:39 PM

Sorry about that! Game started and I forgot to enter the link. Here is the...

- MVT Tue Feb 21 2012 09:51 PM

Official Duke - Virginia Tech Game Thread Round 2 - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:02 PM

another brilliant end of half play by Seth. Let EG dribble and throw up a shot.... - Wild Turkey Sat Feb 25 2012 02:26 PM

Maybe when you finish coaching your rec league team you can stop by the Tech... - HokieDan Sat Feb 25 2012 03:39 PM

Dude Duke did the same thing with River multiple times....get a clue.

- The Wop Sat Feb 25 2012 03:30 PM

Getting a good look should be a priority over taking the clock to 0

- Maroon Baboon Sat Feb 25 2012 02:32 PM

Despite all the haters, this team stuck together and never stopped fighting. ... - chuckd4vt Sat Feb 25 2012 02:20 PM

No hater here. I love our effort against the 8 or 10 McDonald's All-Americans... - Beach Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:21 PM

I still hate Dook

- HokieHusband Sat Feb 25 2012 02:20 PM

The end of both regulation and OT were disasters - 44H Sat Feb 25 2012 02:19 PM

Is that not our best plan?

- Fishin_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:19 PM

Maybe, but at least get everyone moving so that if the opportunity presents... - 44H Sat Feb 25 2012 02:26 PM

I'd say that's a big no. Add in the end-of-half situations, and I'd guess there... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:21 PM

Had Cadarian not been off balance, he might have made that put-back in... - Beach Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:28 PM

Absolutely. And I hate bringing it up so often, but I think it's because we... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:30 PM

Proud of the effort, seem to be playing much better since the Miami game.

- Nate23VT Sat Feb 25 2012 02:21 PM

That's for sure. Rankin, Raines, and DFS in particular have REALLY picked up... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:23 PM

How much time did Raines have on the putback attempt? He seemed to have rushed... - Nate23VT Sat Feb 25 2012 02:24 PM

It looked to me as though he was off-balance when he tried to put it back.

- Beach Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:30 PM

He did rush it and I think he had about 1.5 seconds to get himself together and... - ME Hokie 07 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:28 PM

He had a little bit more time, but not a whole lot.

- Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:26 PM

Great team effort. hopefully they will grow from it.

- Glen Allen Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:17 PM

Hate to say this - but this is the 4th game this year that EG has missed a game... - Glen Allen Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:16 PM

PROUD. PROUD. PROUND. Hokie Pride

- hoaf Sat Feb 25 2012 02:15 PM

Raines pick a nice consolation

- Maroon Baboon Sat Feb 25 2012 02:14 PM

Needed those missed free throws. *sigh*

- Beach Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:14 PM

Tough game. Props to the guys for a great game.

- baltvt Sat Feb 25 2012 02:13 PM

So many tough losses for the team this year. But they never quit on the... - Solid Snake Sat Feb 25 2012 02:15 PM

Honestly I had little hope for a VT win today, but Duke was very lucky to win... - TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:20 PM

Agreed. And Raines with the thunderous screen even though it doesn't matter

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 02:14 PM

If Rivers makes that drive the refs blow the whistle.

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:13 PM

Of course.

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 02:13 PM

Proud of our beleaguered team.

- Beach Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:13 PM

Duke +12 points at the foul line

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:10 PM

Whats our team doing not fouling right away?

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:11 PM

Great game guys! They played hard

- rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 02:18 PM

Zo or Eddie didn't want to foulout - big mistake by them

- Glen Allen Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:13 PM

cost the team 10 seconds

- Glen Allen Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:14 PM

Man that Raines putback at the end of regulation is going to be in my mind all... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:15 PM

Looked like he thought time was almost gone. That's tough - Raines played... - Glen Allen Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:28 PM

More than that, I'll be thinking of starting the play three seconds earlier. Do... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:20 PM

Ughhhhghghghghghghhghghg

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:12 PM

Zo got fouled and deserved three

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:07 PM

He did get fould, but his foot was on the line.

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 02:08 PM

It seems every time he gets fouled on the three he hits hit... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:09 PM

Rivers is getting that call every time...come on refs...come on

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:06 PM

There is a foul every time Rivers or Curry drives.... wow.

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 02:06 PM

That wasn't a three?

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 02:07 PM

Good call on the toe & line. Damnit.

- Technik Sat Feb 25 2012 02:08 PM

Zo drills that one

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 02:05 PM

HUGE bucket!

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 02:06 PM

Nice stutter step by Curry, no call, layup

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:05 PM

"Tired legs"....drink

- Maroon Baboon Sat Feb 25 2012 02:01 PM

I was drinking to "fatigue"

- DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:10 PM

That may have just made it all at least a little bit worth it.

- DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:14 PM

Rivers was close to stepping out of bounds.

- DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:18 PM

Big shot by Hudson!

- rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 02:05 PM

Again!!

- rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 02:07 PM

Lets go hokies

- CalvinBall Sat Feb 25 2012 02:05 PM

Alls Rivers has to do is drive to the hoop and they'll call a foul every time.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:03 PM

Is there anything worse than seeing Dell Curry cheering with a Duke sweater on?... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:05 PM

Not really. Sickening.

- Beach Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:19 PM

NO, there's not anything worse.

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 02:09 PM

OH MY GOD WOW DUKE HAD TO PLAY 2 GAMES IN 3 DAYS? Never before.

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 02:01 PM

yeah why don't we ever have to do that...oh that's right we do, but we never... - 88hokies13 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:08 PM

I thought Raines has the game winner. We can beat this team but we cannot let... - CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:00 PM

I don't believe the walk call on Green. That stuff has been going on all ball... - VTCC'65 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:59 PM

I thought it was a good call. Just bad timing.

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 02:00 PM

WHY WHY WHY did we start that play with eight seconds left? That's way too late... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 02:00 PM

No. No it's not. He very clearly walked on that play.

- Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:59 PM

Definitely a walk on Green, but Austin Rivers never has a pivot foot. He walks... - dallasvt Sat Feb 25 2012 02:04 PM

That's what I've been tryin to say for pastr 2 days.

- VTCC'65 Mon Feb 27 2012 05:44 PM

Ahh....wish we could have gotten it in regulation

- rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 02:00 PM

Definitely...they were freakin all over him to begin with.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:59 PM

Nice look at the put back to win, but missed, OT

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:59 PM

To quote Bill Raftery...Zo with da Kissssss

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:55 PM

Zo's 3 point bank shot well before time clock violation

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:55 PM

Wow...no foul call right in front of the Duke bench...make up call on the way.

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:54 PM

It actually looked like a great call/non-call. He had all ball.

- DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:55 PM

It was a good call.

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 01:56 PM

Seth is amused.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:57 PM

Damnit!

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:58 PM

That DFS open 3 look was a HUGE, HUGE chance...

- reece4vt Sat Feb 25 2012 01:53 PM

Been here before 1 point game with three to play

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:49 PM

Let's hope we've learned from some of those heartbreaks

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 01:52 PM

Good effort today no matter the outcome. You gotta figure with how we lose... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:52 PM

Shocked for the call on Kelly...they never make that call in Cameron.

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:48 PM

i was like....an offensive call on duke ? did we pay the refs today lol

- 88hokies13 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:49 PM

NO WAY. A Duke player just fouled out? UNPOSSIBLE

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 01:47 PM

No overtime lets go boys

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 01:58 PM

CRAP. Do not like overtime

- Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 01:58 PM

We will be doomed in overtime with our foul trouble.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:59 PM

That will be taken out of someone's pay!

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 01:49 PM

Damn nice Hokie comeback to lead by one

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:43 PM

I'd like to see VT spread the court and let DFS take Plumlee or Kelly one on one

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:41 PM

I agree...they cannot defend DFS on the drive.

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:45 PM

They're calling it straight down the stretch. That's not easy to do right in... - DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:54 PM

except that push-off on that rebound :)

- TD-Tech Sat Feb 25 2012 01:55 PM

You gotta think they should just foul us and make us hit free throws.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:56 PM

Despite the outcome, a Duke player fouling out of an ACC game at a time where... - CapeCodHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:49 PM

Seth Curry gets to foul all day on defense.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:47 PM

Anyone see the fat dork fan in the Duke student section with the UVA polo on?

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:48 PM

I was busy laughing at the guy in full blazer, shirt, and tie.

- Technik Sat Feb 25 2012 01:49 PM

DFS can take Kelly...every time!

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:41 PM

Ugh more Free Throws. phew...

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:42 PM

Beware....THE REFS ARE COMING, THE REFS ARE COMING!

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:43 PM

Not sure why you're complaining about the refs. I thought they've been pretty... - rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 01:48 PM

It was a joke. I was implying watch the refs control the game down the stretch... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:49 PM

Eddie is our best shooter. He needs some looks.

- baltvt Sat Feb 25 2012 01:38 PM

Is Duke the only team to ever play another basketball game? Drink everytime... - Sputnik Sat Feb 25 2012 01:38 PM

A great move by Rivers...in any other league it is called TRAVELLING

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:36 PM

Kelly a flop artist.. no way charge on the baseline.. got underneath our player

- hoaf Sat Feb 25 2012 01:33 PM

This is a great sticky for the rest of the afternoon>>>nice avitar too.

- VTCC'65 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:32 PM

Come on do-do. Get the frees

- rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 01:34 PM

Who else was laughing at the Duke kids clapping to All of the Lights?

- DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:39 PM

Here we go...can't hit shots, playing against Duke AND the refs and its time... - JustinVT85 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:32 PM

Greens dribbling around at the top of the key is not an offense. This just... - 133210Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:38 PM

Can't believe Green is our only option at the end of the game/ He is not a... - 133210Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 02:01 PM

9-0 run Are you kidding me! ***!

- arch80 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:32 PM

If you can't make a shot why even try!

- arch80 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:30 PM

Curry stumbles through 4 steps, no call, hits a three

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:30 PM

I thought I saw the ref calling it too. That didn't make any sense to me. ... - DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:32 PM

Oh boy...here comes the DFS free throw show. What are those nerds chanting?

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:34 PM

It was "OH FOR SIX."

- Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:43 PM

We have got to get Eddie open more than once a freaking game!

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:35 PM

that was one of the most blatent missed/bad calls I've seen all year - how... - reece4vt Sat Feb 25 2012 01:32 PM

Definitely a travel....

- hoaf Sat Feb 25 2012 01:31 PM

Why at the 12 minute mark do we stop scoring. I hope we don't get stuck on 40... - baltvt Sat Feb 25 2012 01:30 PM

Here it comes....down the stretch Duke will get every call

- HokieDan Sat Feb 25 2012 01:30 PM

This is a very dangerous time in the game. We have to withstand the run and... - CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:28 PM

How many times will we hear about Duke being tired from the FSU game?

- Maroon Baboon Sat Feb 25 2012 01:27 PM

They had to hitch hike back from FSU apparently.

- BayHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:29 PM

See if we can make free throws. Didn't Green start the year shooting near 90%?... - JustinVT85 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:24 PM

He's definitely been struggling lately.

- rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 01:25 PM

VT leads ACC in free throw % but 2-10 today

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:22 PM

Green will surely miss these free throws.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:23 PM

We gotta start hitting the free throws. DFS 0 for 6, Green missed his last... - rdom Sat Feb 25 2012 01:24 PM

I think Duke has made most of its points at the free throw line this... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:24 PM

Did the Duke team have to hitchhike back from the FSU game?

- BayHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:26 PM

We got this.

- CalvinBall Sat Feb 25 2012 01:27 PM

Lol Duke in the bonus already. SMH.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:28 PM

lol I don't think he was set at all.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:29 PM

DFS can take his man off the bounce...no need to settle for the long jumper. ... - CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:20 PM

Here come the refs trying to even this thing out. They just put 4 on Hudson. ... - CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:12 PM

Yup...no touch foul calls on Duke.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:13 PM

Every time DFS has taking the ball to the hoop today something good... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:13 PM

Agreed...DFS has been the best player on the floor in O&M today.

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:16 PM

that play he just made controlling the dribble and getting it inside to... - 88hokies13 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:17 PM

I think we should just play Hudson until he fouls out...not like we have... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:20 PM

So what are we shooting today at the FT line...5%?

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:21 PM

Duke had a 10-1 run in first half. VT has to avoid the next Duke run

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:09 PM

Refs want to get Duke in the bonus early.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:11 PM

Field goal shooting % sux!

- arch80 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:03 PM

Good first half Can we sustain it to stay close!

- arch80 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:02 PM

Actually our bigs are holding their own....guards just can't put the ball in... - 133210Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:54 PM

I like Raines game - Maroon Baboon Sat Feb 25 2012 01:06 PM

How the hell was that a shooting foul?

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:08 PM

I thought he had passed the ball. Then I wasn't sure how Hudson's third was a... - DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:14 PM

Pretty good half without much offensive contribution from Green

- HokieDan Sat Feb 25 2012 12:51 PM

I wouldn't call a 24-point half "good" from an offensive standpoint. We're just... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:57 PM

DFS is easily the best passer on this team. His court vision is fantastic.

- CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:50 PM

I think Rankin is a very good passer as well.

- baltvt Sat Feb 25 2012 12:58 PM

Can the zebras please call a push off on at least one of the Plumlee brothers... - CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:41 PM

K will have them playing aggressive D second half and defy the refs to call it.... - hoaf Sat Feb 25 2012 12:51 PM

Erick Green is spending a lot of time on the bench and the team desperately... - CobbCountyHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:39 PM

Well, there was a chance for some leadership. But instead he pulls up and... - nc_hokie87 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:41 PM

Shooting 28%....ouch.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:45 PM

DFS with a phenomenal half...besides the free throws.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:49 PM

Free throws

- HokieDan Sat Feb 25 2012 12:37 PM

No such thing as a 50/50 ball at duke

- TRDHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:36 PM

If it's 50/50, it's going to Duke. That was evident. But also they get the... - The Wop Sat Feb 25 2012 12:53 PM

ACC has the absolute worst officials in the NCAA

- JustinVT85 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:33 PM

Our free throw shooting is absolute terrible as well

- JustinVT85 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:37 PM

Wow goaltending by a lot?

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:35 PM

Also DFS looking like Shaq at the FT line.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:36 PM

I'm counting ref screw jobs up to three so far That block of of Plumlee's... - tallahasseehokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:31 PM

Come on Hudson...not even close so far this game.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:26 PM

How can you be a "7 time rookie of the year"? That Austin Rivers is something... - H-O-K-I-E-S Sat Feb 25 2012 12:32 PM

Playing decent defense so far...Duke seems to have the same issue we... - HokieDan Sat Feb 25 2012 12:36 PM

Dell Curry with the Duke polo on.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:37 PM

i get it but <puke>

- ME Hokie 07 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:38 PM

Well we have played good enough defense thus far...just can't hit any shots. ... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:39 PM

That last sequence right there was the most entertaining thing i've seen this... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:41 PM

announcer "if there is blood where is the foul" what a dick, who is he... - tallahasseehokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:24 PM

Ex UVA guy Alexander. Isn't it possible to get scratched by your own teammate?... - The Wop Sat Feb 25 2012 12:32 PM

Alexander is usually very complementary of the Hokies, you obviously haven't... - cush13 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:59 PM

To be fair, you haven't been paying attention to this message board if you... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:02 PM

i am not loistening but my guess is it was Tim Brandt a MD alumni

- FBRGHOKIEFAN Sat Feb 25 2012 12:27 PM

haha yeah, it's absolutely not true either. You can easily get scratched and it... - ME Hokie 07 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:27 PM

Lol so Plumlee uses the hook move and they call a foul on us.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:20 PM

Curry makes a big shot. Like VT's never heard that before. I hope he's a... - Hoakie82 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:29 PM

What happened on that drive by Curry before he got the ball back for a 3? If... - DCU_Hokie Sat Feb 25 2012 01:31 PM

They can't let the Dookies lose to a sub 100 team at home.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:32 PM

yeah then knocked one out of bounds off his nose, but called out on VT

- TabbHokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:31 PM

Difference in the ballgame -- their guards can penetrate, ours can't. Man, what... - Nova Hokie 95 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:32 PM

seth let the official know about it

- bluehokie Sat Feb 25 2012 12:22 PM

yeah that was a bad call but I think SG's lobbying got us the charge call as a... - ME Hokie 07 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:22 PM

Let the lobbying continue.... I was upset at his lack of lobbying in the UVA... - nc_hokie87 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:24 PM

uh...it's Duke. Duh

- HokieDan Sat Feb 25 2012 12:22 PM

I'm sorry to see Victor out here at the end of - HokieDan Sat Feb 25 2012 12:20 PM

DFS looking good all-around so far. Besides the missed FTs.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:19 PM

let's hope they don't come back to haunt us.

- VTChip Sat Feb 25 2012 01:53 PM

UH oh Coach K IS HOT! I'm going to have to get drunk after this game. No... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 01:55 PM

gotta make those free throws to win it

- FBRGHOKIEFAN Sat Feb 25 2012 12:11 PM

Checking in from Cameron. Anyone else posting from here?

- Hokie de NC Sat Feb 25 2012 12:20 PM

I guess Rivers thinks hes AI wearing that sleeve.

- bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:11 PM

that kid can shoot, be glad to see him take the one and done route

- ME Hokie 07 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:13 PM

As always, love our defensive effort. And I think our offense looks pretty... - SteveInBaltimore Sat Feb 25 2012 12:28 PM

On that last play they said the ball went off us...The ref didn't even see it... - bfloyd89 Sat Feb 25 2012 12:30 PM

Message Board Myths (long) - Squatro Mon Feb 13 2012 09:47 PM

I agree on everything said except I think Manny Atkins was ready to contribute... - VTCC'65 Tue Feb 14 2012 07:11 PM

I'm not speaking specifically to Manny, although I would agree he could have... - KP Texas Tue Feb 14 2012 07:52 PM

One more thing. Maybe the VT fan base is not so special but only made to look... - VTCC'65 Tue Feb 14 2012 07:17 PM

The OP deserve rep, green nipples, +1 or something.

- DCU_Hokie Tue Feb 14 2012 01:56 PM

Response to some of your "myths"-- - Gobbler Guru Tue Feb 14 2012 01:02 PM

Excellent post.

- NC Hoke Tue Feb 14 2012 07:19 PM

Spot on response. Perfect.

- Stork Tue Feb 14 2012 06:47 PM

Your post did get me thinking about who does run an offense in recent years... - Squatro Tue Feb 14 2012 06:14 PM

We have a winner especially the response to # 9.

- pebblebrookhokie Tue Feb 14 2012 02:58 PM

Really? I was thinking that was the response I most disagreed with.... I... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 07:40 PM

If CSG has coached for 30 years and he is an expert in X's and O's, tell me... - Hokie in NC Tue Feb 14 2012 11:54 AM

That comment is ABSURD!

- jdbeaton Thu Feb 16 2012 10:29 PM

I think the point is that he obviously knows more about the the "X's and O's"... - KP Texas Tue Feb 14 2012 06:57 PM

K P Texas you make a lot of sense. I agree with your assessment. If you were... - jdbeaton Mon Feb 20 2012 11:29 PM

To judge it *solely* on that, sure. However, I see no problem with using it as... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 11:30 AM

AMEN!!!!! please stop that he is good X and O's he isnt.. im sure your more of... - pebblebrookhokie Tue Feb 14 2012 02:51 PM

Please stop saying he's not a good X's and O's coach when -- in some areas of... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:01 PM

Let's stick to his offense, if you can call it that!

- Hokie in NC Tue Feb 14 2012 03:11 PM

Then say "He's not a good offensive coach" instead of "he's not good with X's... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:15 PM

Look, I'm far from a Greenberg apologist, but those are two very silly points.... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:05 PM

Silly? Tell us what his NCAA record is now that he has the opportunities. ... - Hokie in NC Tue Feb 14 2012 12:24 PM

Are brand new facilities supposed to help him retroactively?

- Wandering_Hokie Tue Feb 14 2012 03:42 PM

I feel that his record of earning NCAA bids at VT is lacking. There are... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:38 PM

I admire your loyalty but his offense has me wondering if he is simply limited... - Hokie in NC Tue Feb 14 2012 03:18 PM

It seems everyone misjudged the talent (or potential talent at... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 12:09 PM

I can't believe this keeps getting recycled. Seth made no mistakes concerning... - WestEndHokie39 Wed Feb 15 2012 10:42 AM

You are truly clueless. WE HAD NO SCHOLIES LEFT THAT YEAR!! Get it? Even if we... - Hokiefan5 Tue Feb 14 2012 05:15 PM

Always a great way to get someone's attention and earn respect........ ... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 05:23 PM

I'm with you Hubman. Right or wrong and I know plenty disagree, Dell Curry's... - Hoakie82 Wed Feb 15 2012 12:03 PM

The problem is that a wasted scholarship is a big deal in bball when you have... - Cvillehoops13 Wed Feb 15 2012 03:03 PM

I understand all of that but we will just have to agree to disagree. I stand... - Hoakie82 Wed Feb 15 2012 05:33 PM

Dang- you are smarter than Roy Williams! He should have guaranteed all of... - WestEndHokie39 Wed Feb 15 2012 09:41 PM

Who are you talking to?

- Anomaly Wed Feb 15 2012 09:52 PM

I was responding to this: I understand all of that but we will just have to... - WestEndHokie39 Wed Feb 15 2012 09:58 PM

Please just click on "Reply with Quote". Then you will not have to quote... - HokieJay Wed Feb 15 2012 11:49 PM

there are plenty of ways to show appreciation that don't involve blindly... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 05:42 PM

Was she the BEST volleyball player ever at VT? Does everyone know her name? ... - Hoakie82 Wed Feb 15 2012 05:51 PM

No, but why should son #1 be the only one to get the blind schollie? You... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 06:38 PM

If you get the 1st son and he works out great. For all the reasons I already... - Hoakie82 Wed Feb 15 2012 07:22 PM

right, because if Dell's first son is completely uninterested and/or terrible... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 11:37 PM

We'll never know but I sure would have like to have had the opportunity to find... - Hoakie82 Thu Feb 16 2012 12:32 AM

Can you explain the thinking behind "He's good enough for a scholarship after... - Nova Hokie 95 Wed Feb 15 2012 03:54 PM

It's justified in retrospect because of the major impact that Tyrone Appleton... - Groff Wed Feb 15 2012 04:06 PM

Guys- in all fairness, no one and I mean NO ONE, hopped on the Stephen Curry... - GMSAHokie Wed Feb 15 2012 06:07 PM

Meh. I think it's an interesting discussion topic, what else do we have to talk... - Groff Wed Feb 15 2012 06:47 PM

I disagree. I don't think he should have offered Stephen *just* because he was... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:17 PM

That is exactly what I was saying. I don't think he should have offered him a... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 12:32 PM

At risk of playing Devil's Advocate (bwahahahahahahahahaha)...the sentiment of... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 12:08 PM

I would argue that it's easier to make the tourney at *some specific*... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:20 PM

And VCU and ODU are? IIRC that was the crux of the original debate. I'm... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 12:28 PM

What "original debate" is that? I responded specifically to the poster saying... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:52 PM

I was pretty much just referencing a previous discussion about whether or not... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 01:02 PM

THANK YOU. I guess all hope is NOT lost for this board...

- Bleedin OandM Tue Feb 14 2012 10:56 AM

Looks like the CSG supporters outnumber the Negative Nancys a brazillion to one... - YBYSAIAHokie Tue Feb 14 2012 10:05 AM

You are incorrect. - Gobbler Guru Tue Feb 14 2012 04:53 PM

Nice smug comeback. Good one but what if the PATTs lay claim to the "reality... - Hoakie82 Tue Feb 14 2012 06:17 PM

You know, you aren't helping the culture of the board by labeling people like... - Chris Coleman Tue Feb 14 2012 10:47 AM

Chris, maybe you could write an article explaining what you mean? I sort of... - Hoakie82 Tue Feb 14 2012 04:01 PM

And don't forget the Whiny Wendys :rolleyes:

- YBYSAIAHokie Tue Feb 14 2012 06:06 PM

The Crying Chris's & Weeping Will's are the worst. LOL

- Hoakie82 Tue Feb 14 2012 06:42 PM

Hit a little too close to home?

- Wandering_Hokie Tue Feb 14 2012 03:44 PM

GREAT post. I think you should start a Hokie-Snopes.com web site!

- Culpeper Hokie Tue Feb 14 2012 10:02 AM

Incredible Post - Seth is not perfect, but Seth is fully engaged in making our... - reece4vt Tue Feb 14 2012 09:23 AM

The NCAA tournament selection process isn't "arbitrary" - Talk about Message... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 09:33 AM

All you have to do is look at the "reasons" we get left out. It changes every... - WestEndHokie39 Tue Feb 14 2012 10:02 AM

last year was inexplicable based on the teams that did get in. It truly was...

- reece4vt Tue Feb 14 2012 10:28 AM

Like I said, when you play yourself onto the bubble every year, you are... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 10:06 AM

Why can everyone but VT make it in from the bubble? That is the question we... - Wandering_Hokie Tue Feb 14 2012 03:46 PM

this is exactly what I'm talking about that you call a straw man argument...... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:05 PM

If you read every post in this thread, it will probably decrease your IQ by... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 02:11 PM

Fact: Hubman picked his name due his obsession with pornhub dot com. This... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:15 PM

A telling post......

- Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 02:18 PM

Yes a telling post indeed...it was a freaking joke. Stop taking crap so... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:22 PM

That's funny, it's really come to that. Look at the post I just wrote above... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:14 PM

See, that's what you don't understand. You keep making up things that I'm not... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:10 PM

Come on now, Groff. I was with you lock-step every step of the way until this... - GMSAHokie Tue Feb 14 2012 03:19 PM

Sure, and I honestly can't disagree with a lot of it. What I disagree with... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:40 PM

But thats basketball man. Not just VT, everyone. Its a long season and these... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 05:06 PM

Yep. Those three losses in particular hurt. Right now, we are a program that... - GMSAHokie Tue Feb 14 2012 03:47 PM

But this year FSU losing to Princeton, Harvard, a bad Uconn team (no better... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 05:09 PM

Again, no one is arguing your point. Obviously you want to play yourself in to... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:45 PM

And, THAT is a very good point. This never should have been a conversation... - GMSAHokie Tue Feb 14 2012 03:50 PM

Some people are arguing my point. There should be a balance of sorts between... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:49 PM

Great post and especially the part quoted above perfectly describes the... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:25 PM

Don't forget the 80% of teams who play BAD enough to "not be on the bubble". I... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:18 PM

I honestly agree with a lot of what you say, I just don't agree with a lot of... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:33 PM

I would argue "corrupt" is a better word to describe it... but I will hate the... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:46 PM

Would you consider calling the selection committee "corrupt" an exaggeration or... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:48 PM

Slight exaggeration yes. But there are several things that really make me... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:00 PM

You could describe it as "we had an RPI 20 points lower than them and an SOS... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:10 PM

RPI is a joke, but unfortunately is the measuring stick. Doesn't change my... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:22 PM

I don't know what else to tell you. All the numbers are there for your perusal.... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:32 PM

The point is if the RPI and SOS are sooooo important to keep us out that year,... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 04:54 PM

I didn't label it a conspiracy...we're not talking about murdering JFK here. I... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:37 PM

You called it "fishy" and you said that corruption was "probably an... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:45 PM

I most definitely am. If they want to be clear and write a criteria that is... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 05:01 PM

yeah, because there's never any controversy about the BCS rankings

- Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 10:36 AM

The BCS is used completely differently for football than how I am suggesting to... - nc_hokie87 Wed Feb 15 2012 11:30 AM

not as much controversy as for the top 2 football teams, but I wouldn't be... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 12:10 PM

Another point I forgot to mention is when you go by a formula that is out in... - nc_hokie87 Wed Feb 15 2012 01:05 PM

how do you know there are problems with it? you have a committee of people... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 01:38 PM

It could become incredibly helpful for teams to know exactly the criteria. If... - nc_hokie87 Wed Feb 15 2012 02:27 PM

so describe the scheduling philosophy that the BCS dictates for success...and... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 02:51 PM

More replies below current depth...

Given how "silly" the computer polls are, I don't see why there is anything... - nc_hokie87 Wed Feb 15 2012 01:00 PM

I see everything wrong with throwing out best and worst. 1. Just because a... - Pylons Wed Feb 15 2012 01:23 PM

OK, we will agree to disagree on that small part of my overall point. What... - nc_hokie87 Wed Feb 15 2012 01:34 PM

Haha. I do not think the process is perfect. I'll just leave it at that :) ... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:47 PM

Also Wake Forest lost 4 of its last 5 games in the regular season. We won our... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:25 PM

Corrupt is probably an exaggeration, but I think you could reach that they... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:52 PM

That year Wake Forest had 9 good wins and no bad losses. They had an RPI of 39... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:09 PM

I feel a "the RPI is a conspiracy" retort coming............

- Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 03:26 PM

Not a conspiracy, just antiquated. They need a new system. Pomeroy is... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:28 PM

so a process where a group of men decide who does and does not deserve to make... - reece4vt Tue Feb 14 2012 09:36 AM

Yes, the process isn't "arbitrary" because anyone familiar with the process can... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 09:44 AM

So if it is not arbitrary, why are we one of those teams that has been... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:19 PM

Umm...because we were on the bubble. I don't know how to be any clearer about... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 01:47 PM

What did that 06 07 team have that recent teams don't ? Talent AND... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:54 PM

I think the amount of people on this board who think SG should be fired this... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:01 PM

And if we lose one of the two OT games against Duke or UNC that year you better... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:56 PM

Unfortunately, that season wasn't unlike others, other than beating UNC twice... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:52 PM

It absolutely was unlike others. We had an RPI of 34 and a SOS of 22 that year.

- Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 01:59 PM

Because that season was a perfect storm. Duke and UNC were at the top of the... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:08 PM

The conference as a whole was so much better that year. The worst team that... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:22 PM

You say that as if VT basketball only has one option: to suck. When will the... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 01:40 PM

That is my point, WE DONT SUCK anymore like we did before SG. We are... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:50 PM

I was going to bring something like this up, but I figured i'd get bashed right... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:32 PM

Stop focussing on beating UNC and Duke, and focus more on beating UNLV, BYU,... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 01:44 PM

^^This^^

- NC Hoke Tue Feb 14 2012 07:11 PM

We lost several of those games at the buzzer, one on a half court shot. One... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:00 PM

Also, spare me the "well we lost some games we shouldn't have lost so we... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:34 PM

Exactly. Everyone else loses games too.... how about Penn State losing to US... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:41 PM

Oh geez, do we really need to bring out the numbers (facts) every time you try... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 01:52 PM

the problem is we are not and have not been a program that is above the... - reece4vt Tue Feb 14 2012 09:47 AM

Being on the bubble isn't about your "program" it's about your season. It's... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 09:55 AM

we smacked GT and beat FSU at the ACC tournament. It was my opinion (biased as... - reece4vt Tue Feb 14 2012 10:27 AM

Someone posted a really good article on here last year that was all about the... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 10:42 AM

The problem is they have to re-write that article every year because there is... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 11:01 AM

It has nothing to do with who they want to include, but rather the changing... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 11:42 AM

Right, when you're on the bubble the "Criteria" changes because the teams are... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 11:05 AM

Dude, you could be a member of the selection committee and some people on here... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 11:12 AM

Groff just seems to like to play devil's advocate to everything everyone posts.... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 11:44 AM

I'm not playing Devil's Advocate. Devil's Advocate means (IIRC) that you don't... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 12:06 PM

But there is no selection process until you get down to the bubble teams... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:40 PM

Well, that's not true. The entire thing is the selection process. Bubble teams... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 01:06 PM

Here's where the argument eventually ends up: Do you give Greenberg a pass for... - RapmasterAC Tue Feb 14 2012 11:41 AM

Was just about to post the same. Groff is doing an admirable job here and I... - Burke Hokie Tue Feb 14 2012 11:25 AM

I'll second this.

- Hokie Dale Wed Feb 15 2012 09:22 PM

Yes, and that FSU win put us in the tournament according to every guru in the... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 10:29 AM

We were already on the bubble because we lost vs. BC and @CU in the regular... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 10:45 AM

A lack of offense under Seth Greenberg coached teams isn't anything new. I'm... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=Groff;223201]A lack of offense under Seth Greenberg coached teams isn't... - Squatro Tue Feb 14 2012 10:53 AM

You mention how it is execution problems and not design problems. I tend to... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:14 PM

I don't agree with you here. I just don't think Thorns and Adkins have the... - Squatro Tue Feb 14 2012 10:49 AM

THANK YOU...How many noticed how SG attacked the vaunted "pack line D" Any B... - Shbolf Tue Feb 14 2012 08:54 AM

Excellent post.

- Hokiestud Tue Feb 14 2012 08:05 AM

POTD or season. Should be a must read. Thank you.

- Hoakie82 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:33 AM

Bravo, very nicely done Squatro...I would add 1. Why don't we recruit a top... - KP Texas Mon Feb 13 2012 10:49 PM

good stuff

- vtsupporter Mon Feb 13 2012 10:45 PM

It does get really old seeing some of these myths (and others recently... - RapmasterAC Mon Feb 13 2012 10:34 PM

Myth #12: VT basketball is entitled to be in the top half of the ACC, the team... - VTer Tue Feb 14 2012 01:48 PM

Myth #13 - Anyone on this board expects what you just wrote.

- Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 01:54 PM

Expecting VT to be a lock not only requires us to be in the top half of the... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 01:57 PM

Who is "expecting VT to be a lock?" I keep trying to be patient, but... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:04 PM

So are you saying you don't expect us to make ncaa tournaments? Because if... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:07 PM

Do I expect the Virginia Tech Basketball Team to ever make the NCAA tournament?... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:13 PM

The only confusing part is if you feel the way you do as shown above, what is... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:22 PM

I don't have a "beef" with CSG. Seriously, some of you people need to take a... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 02:42 PM

You never answered the "do you think the Virginia Tech Basketball team should... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:48 PM

Should have? No. Could have? Absolutely. Why should they have been... - reestuart Tue Feb 14 2012 06:23 PM

I don't see the point. Do I think they *should have*? Of course, I think they... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:02 PM

You were answering everything else objectively why state a bias now? I asked... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 03:16 PM

You asked a subjective question, how does one answer that without bias? I said... - Groff Tue Feb 14 2012 03:31 PM

Haha- FWIW, I would have answered that question the exact same way. There were... - GMSAHokie Tue Feb 14 2012 03:35 PM

The better question, do you think the Virginia Tech Basketball team should have... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:16 PM

Yes, let's ask VT fans if we should have made it in the tourney.......that... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 02:19 PM

I was asking Groff his opinion on the matter, because he actually adds... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:24 PM

Wow.....when all else fails....... You should report the posts where I... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 02:26 PM

What has failed...I don't get it? Please enlighten. You have gone out of your... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:29 PM

I apologize if any of my posts upset you. I do, however, stand behind... - Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 02:41 PM

It's good to stand behind you're views. I just don't get when people have to... - bfloyd89 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:47 PM

uhhhh have you read the boards lately? a lot of people seem to agree with the... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 02:24 PM

We always supplied the committee with reasons not to select us though.

- NC Hoke Tue Feb 14 2012 07:01 PM

I understand we give the committee reasons to not select us... honestly, every... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 07:33 PM

Isn't the Wake AD on the selection committee? And wasn't there a story that... - Anomaly Tue Feb 14 2012 07:49 PM

Yes and yes. A very large part of my frustration stems from that.... but the... - nc_hokie87 Tue Feb 14 2012 07:57 PM

Wake voted against us? Dang, you must have some serious insider info here.......

- Hubman Tue Feb 14 2012 11:03 PM

Uhhh, Dook and UNC voted against us. Wake voted for us.

- Nova Hokie 95 Tue Feb 14 2012 10:34 PM

Believe me Myth #11 is most definitely a myth. Consider this myth busted. VT... - Hokie Flyer Tue Feb 14 2012 08:33 AM

Sadly, I agree, especially in Basketball. The fans need to rock the Cassell... - Hoakie82 Tue Feb 14 2012 12:51 AM

Totally agree...people have the right to question anything they want. It's... - KP Texas Mon Feb 13 2012 11:29 PM

I swear many of these posters have been watching a different program than I the... - Wandering_Hokie Mon Feb 13 2012 11:10 PM

I feel the same way. This season is the worst... I feel like anytime I visit... - nc_hokie87 Mon Feb 13 2012 11:41 PM

I agree- this board has become awful. Real discussion about accurate concerns... - WestEndHokie39 Wed Feb 15 2012 10:00 PM

Why is everyone so harsh on Seth? - MotorCityHokie80 Sun Jan 22 2012 08:42 PM

The people that are fine with an NIT basketball team are happy with him. The... - Hokie Of Steel Fri Jan 27 2012 07:56 PM

Take your pick. Some dislike him soley for who he is (a northerner), his... - SwampHokie Fri Jan 27 2012 04:54 PM

.....

- Will1580 Tue Apr 24 2012 02:00 PM

The first 10 minutes of tonight's game answers your question perfectly. This... - hokiekev 2k4 Wed Jan 25 2012 09:16 PM

Seth is not the one who missed the first 14 shots and missed free throws.

- Hokie'79 Thu Jan 26 2012 12:12 PM

He is not. Every game ever lost can be pinned on the players. The coach is... - Pylons Thu Jan 26 2012 01:36 PM

I always scracth my head when people on here praise CSG when talking about how... - Hubman Thu Jan 26 2012 01:47 PM

Yeah, it's different than in the NBA where the GM is responsible for getting... - HokieEngineer Thu Jan 26 2012 02:15 PM

Well, he actually is the reason they missed the first 14 shots. They had... - hokiekev 2k4 Thu Jan 26 2012 12:35 PM

Just curious, but how many LBSU and USF games did you watch while Seth was... - DanNUandVT Thu Jan 26 2012 10:49 AM

Unless he used to know how to attack a zone and forgot once he arrived in... - hokiekev 2k4 Thu Jan 26 2012 11:03 AM

While I have concerns about Seth's offense coaching, I really didn't expect... - BAMAHOKIE Mon Jan 23 2012 06:54 PM

Sorry I missed the discussion today. Good stuff.

- Stork Mon Jan 23 2012 06:17 PM

no offense sucks year after year

- cvillehokie92 Mon Jan 23 2012 04:43 PM

I think a lot of it has to do with personality. And here comes my stereo type... - Hokies23 Mon Jan 23 2012 04:31 PM

As posted earlier; VT is 4th in conference wins since expansion; that's... - Hokie'79 Tue Jan 24 2012 08:45 PM

It may have been posted, but it was posted incorrectly. We are currently tied... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Jan 24 2012 09:58 PM

I don't think Roy is that great of a basketball coach..............Roy is a... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 04:36 PM

Imo Roy Williams is one of the 15 best coaches in the history of the game. The... - Cvillehoops13 Tue Jan 24 2012 12:39 AM

Other than being stacked with McD AA's and Bigs that VT has never seen the... - NC Hoke Sun Jan 29 2012 09:01 PM

Keep posting. I'm starting to get a handle on how many coaches that you work... - VPI63 Tue Jan 24 2012 12:49 AM

As someone who has spent most of his life studying the X's and O's of bball... - Cvillehoops13 Tue Jan 24 2012 12:54 AM

How can you put Boeheim ahead of Roy??? You described him when you mentioned... - Hamburger Mon Jan 23 2012 11:05 PM

How can I? Easily. Tell me who has had better players to work with over the... - Hubman Tue Jan 24 2012 09:43 AM

Easily? You must not be aware of the NBA talent Mr Jim has had through the... - Hamburger Tue Jan 24 2012 10:07 AM

I am very aware actually. I am also aware that Roy has had better. I am also... - Hubman Tue Jan 24 2012 10:15 AM

Hubman, it's ok to admit your NC State fanhood is influencing your opinion a... - RapmasterAC Tue Jan 24 2012 04:36 PM

As for Roy, he is a good coach, but you cannot convince me he is better than... - Hubman Tue Jan 24 2012 04:59 PM

Hey Hubman, since you asked someone else for a favor earlier, I'm paying it... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Jan 24 2012 06:53 PM

Affirmative

- Hubman Tue Jan 24 2012 08:36 PM

I have been watching ACC hoops, attentively, for 25+ years. My opinion may be... - Hubman Tue Jan 24 2012 04:57 PM

Here's my reasoning and why for several years I have not bothered to watch - VPI4Life Mon Jan 23 2012 03:30 PM

Okay I'll bite: Dissatisfaction started with the loss to Wake and continued... - OMBandit Mon Jan 23 2012 01:35 PM

I think it's a predominantly football educated fan base that doesn't... - reece4vt Mon Jan 23 2012 12:46 PM

Kansas has a b-ball educated fanbase and still freaks out about losses to the... - KCHokie2 Mon Jan 23 2012 11:47 PM

Great post - maybe it's not so much a football fan as it is the nature of... - reece4vt Tue Jan 24 2012 06:44 AM

This is the most arrogant possible response to this question, yet you always... - hokiekev 2k4 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:16 PM

I agree..... with most of your post. I dont know if he needs to go back... - VTHOKIE2012 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:26 PM

Do you dispute that basketball is a LOT more random than football? I'll try to... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:54 PM

Butler went to back-to-back title games. They got there on merit. On a given... - KCHokie2 Tue Jan 24 2012 12:02 AM

Sure, I agree with that point; however, that's not what reece was saying. He... - hokiekev 2k4 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:00 PM

That's not what I'm saying. First, I said "predominantly." And by that, I'm... - reece4vt Mon Jan 23 2012 04:26 PM

I don't know. I think people are dramatically underrating the inherent variance... - Gobbler-100 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:32 PM

Well, Clemson has never won in Chapel Hill. They'd love some more variance. ... - KCHokie2 Tue Jan 24 2012 12:11 AM

haha, wow, this might be the first time I've been attacked on these boards. Go... - reece4vt Mon Jan 23 2012 02:39 PM

Wish I had a history of our exchanges to prove this to be the BS that it is.

- hokiekev 2k4 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:56 PM

if by disagreeing, yes, I disagree w/your perspective. That's not what I'm... - reece4vt Mon Jan 23 2012 04:20 PM

In many ways the unexpected wins make it worse for the fans. People can't... - Gobbler-100 Mon Jan 23 2012 12:55 PM

ha, ya, good analogies. Parity is MUCH more prevelant in hoops, as well (tho... - reece4vt Mon Jan 23 2012 02:42 PM

If you are happy with 15-20 win seasons and NIT's he is your guy.......Cupcakes... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 12:20 PM

Did SG sleep with your wife or something? Can you please stop throwing out... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 12:53 PM

I don't think it's worth getting bogged down in the specific numbers. He can... - Gobbler-100 Mon Jan 23 2012 01:09 PM

Yep. Seth's critics rarely make an intelligent point, other than parrot the... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 01:39 PM

Well, you need to explain why, after almost 30 years as a coach, he has not... - VPI63 Wed Jan 25 2012 11:02 PM

You need a reality check if you think he's a top 20 coach

- HokieJamie Mon Jan 23 2012 10:23 PM

Seth is one of the top 15-20 coaches in the country? Again,I find it ironic and... - OMBandit Mon Jan 23 2012 04:53 PM

Seth is not one of the top 15-20 coaches in the nation. Come on.

- Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 02:38 PM

The top 15-20 Division I coaches take their team(s) to the NCAA Tourney EVERY... - FlossEmVT Mon Jan 23 2012 02:12 PM

Ironic you talk about Seth's critics not making an intelligent point when you... - OMBandit Mon Jan 23 2012 02:06 PM

LOL. Is it not true that those places are much easier to recruit than... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:11 PM

Honestly, no. I don't buy into the premise that it's easier to recruit to... - OMBandit Mon Jan 23 2012 04:11 PM

Then there is not much point in discussing this further with you

- Wandering_Hokie Mon Jan 23 2012 04:41 PM

Dude,Tallahassee Florida is the a**h*** of the universe. Plus I think it's... - OMBandit Mon Jan 23 2012 05:00 PM

Wow, not the same Tallahassee I've seen.

- Hamburger Mon Jan 23 2012 11:08 PM

Florida A&M...look it up

- Wandering_Hokie Mon Jan 23 2012 09:30 PM

So, that's kind of the catch-22 then isn't it? If you use a "lack of tradition"... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 02:21 PM

And I don't buy the lack of tradition deal either. Stokes and Hussey were... - OMBandit Mon Jan 23 2012 04:17 PM

Sincere question: Agree or Disagree with the following comment.. Since Seth... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:45 PM

Should Beamer talk to Seth about how to recruit African-American athletes to... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 02:37 PM

Ah yes, the ole everyone cheats but us argument................... That... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 02:15 PM

No. Much more the LOCATION argument. How is that not a valid argument? Again,... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:19 PM

This just simply isn't true. There's plenty of "intelligent" points to be made... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 01:51 PM

And where is your "intelligent point" in this post for why Seth is a bad coach?... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:06 PM

Umm ... last year the team had just as many turnovers as assists. This year,... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:32 PM

Good point. Not to waffle, but what about turnovers ONLY? What is our... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 03:00 PM

Let's look at two stats: TOs and turnover margin. In order, from this year on... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:15 PM

For me, the "fundamentals" argument has always centered more around offense. I... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 02:52 PM

So far this year, 186th. Last year, 91st. Year before 211th. And year before,... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:59 PM

Although they can be looked at statistically...rebounding margin, number of... - 133743Hokie Mon Jan 23 2012 03:03 PM

So, this is your example of an "intelligent argument?" random CAPITAL LETTERS,... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 02:15 PM

One of the arguments against that I don't see much, but that bothers me quite a... - Pylons Mon Jan 23 2012 02:41 PM

That's fairly typical at this level of play

- Wandering_Hokie Mon Jan 23 2012 04:45 PM

Also not mentioned much is a bunch of assistant coaches who have hit the road. ... - FlossEmVT Mon Jan 23 2012 04:21 PM

In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if that was just about "industry... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:43 PM

Gotcha. I'm just glad we have Seth as a coach and look at situations like... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:23 PM

Like it or not, the guy simply has to start delivering NCAA bids. It's just the... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 02:34 PM

Actually, I think the Sendek comparison is relevant because it underscores that... - Gobbler-100 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:17 PM

Totally agree with you regarding SG, but Groff has been one of the few on the... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:30 PM

Well, he is still wrong. If the ceiling is NIT, how did we make it to the 2nd... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 01:17 PM

No, I understand. I'm just saying don't expect it to change anybody's mind.

- Gobbler-100 Mon Jan 23 2012 01:22 PM

It won't. Its just unfair to SG and even the people reading his posts to... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 01:32 PM

I am LOLLering at your posts......I should have left numbers out because they... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 01:48 PM

Because Long Beach St and South Florida are always NCAA tourney teams, both... - KP Texas Mon Jan 23 2012 08:56 PM

I think you just describe George Mason....went to final four!

- VPI63 Wed Jan 25 2012 10:48 PM

Man. Such a solid post, only to throw it away in the last few lines...

- beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 09:36 PM

I know, I know...the sarcasm was a little too thick on that last line...and I... - KP Texas Tue Jan 24 2012 02:27 PM

There is a recruiting "cycle." Especially at VT. The last two years, Seth had... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:17 PM

No, you should have left numbers out because they were WRONG and purposely... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 01:54 PM

Stop crying, you look silly........you act like I am trying to fool someone... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 02:07 PM

Wow, you just refuse to let facts get in the way of your anti-SG bias, its... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:15 PM

You don't see what is going on here? You are counting ACC Tourney wins and NIT... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 02:32 PM

But you also don't fire a coach for them.... especially considering what he... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:33 PM

When does "what he started with" get taken out of the equation? At some point,... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:39 PM

yeah, 5 years in, I understand pointing back to that dark era. 9 years in, I... - Pylons Mon Jan 23 2012 02:51 PM

I think you are doing a disservice to SG and the entire program if you ignore... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:46 PM

I am going to answer your question..................why the meltdown's after... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 02:57 PM

Well, if it is all about tournaments and you say your expected success level is... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:10 PM

Just for fun, I want to laugh about something with you..................you... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 03:20 PM

1. We did lose half our team last year as we had 6/12 players available at one... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:31 PM

In your ire I think you've lost track of the issue with the majority of fans,... - 133743Hokie Mon Jan 23 2012 03:15 PM

My issue is that I think people are misguided about what our plateau really is.... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:19 PM

OK, so in your opinion we have plateaued but that plateau is being incorrectly... - 133743Hokie Mon Jan 23 2012 08:21 PM

Right, and the counter argument to that is that bad breaks happen, and yet we... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 03:38 PM

History suggests? Do you really think that the half court buzzer beaters are... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:44 PM

Did you even read my post? I'm not talking about the "fate aspects." But yes,... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 03:50 PM

I don't know how to respond to this. BC game was a mix of a no rest, too many... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 04:02 PM

I can just as easily say this.......if CSG's teams had beaten one or two more... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 03:23 PM

Well, see that's the real point of contention over the whole thing. You say... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 02:37 PM

The crazy thing is, if CSG just mixed in an NCAA every now and then, nobody is... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 02:46 PM

who do you think we would and could hire that will take us to the level of... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 02:50 PM

I am not an athletic director. That is the worst question you could ask... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 03:06 PM

You are so adamant that SG is not the right man for the job, but don't have a... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:16 PM

We weren't in a stable conference atmosphere before SG either. Here's a... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 03:20 PM

Well, if I were AD, I would go after Archie Miller................but then... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 04:14 PM

NCAA tourney last year...(or potentially any of the other snub years)...the... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 01:14 PM

His teams are consistently inconsistent. Add a little more consistency (ie,... - Guy LeDouche Mon Jan 23 2012 12:11 PM

Actually, the one thing we've done very well (from a season-by-season... - HokieEngineer Mon Jan 30 2012 05:25 PM

Sorry, I was trying to reply to the original poster.

- Gobbler-100 Mon Jan 23 2012 12:49 PM

Why is every fanbase hard on every coach virtually every time anything goes... - Gobbler-100 Mon Jan 23 2012 12:46 PM

Well said.

- beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 01:17 PM

It appears that VT fans have figured out that during Seth's tenure, he appears... - JukeBox_78 Mon Jan 23 2012 10:39 AM

The arguments both for and against Seth's continued tenure as a coach here have... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 10:17 AM

It is because he hasn't won a NCAA championship.

- Hokie Flyer Mon Jan 23 2012 09:28 AM

Inability to recruit centers and run the type of half court offense that goes... - 133919Hokie Mon Jan 23 2012 09:05 AM

I am harsh not because of the teams inability to run a half court offense that... - SWEETPEA 05 Mon Jan 23 2012 09:44 AM

Must be the multiple 10+ wins. Get FB in trouble on TOB, too. TIC

- TomTurkey Mon Jan 23 2012 07:02 AM

I wonder the same thing. He has some good will built up with me, but I have... - nc_hokie87 Mon Jan 23 2012 12:14 AM

Everyone ISN'T harsh on Seth. Just the fickle minority that have lots of... - YBYSAIAHokie Sun Jan 22 2012 11:00 PM

And by "fickle minority," you mean "half the fan base." I know for a fact that... - hokiekev 2k4 Mon Jan 23 2012 12:02 PM

I don't mean to slander 'half the fanbase', as reasonable minds can certainly... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 12:29 PM

1 NCAA Tournament in 9 years is terrible, period.

- KingslandHokie Wed Jan 25 2012 09:59 AM

I think you're not quite right on this one... I, for one, certainly recognize... - hokiekev 2k4 Mon Jan 23 2012 01:44 PM

Haha, "I don't mean to slander 'half the fanbase,' but I am going to..." ... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 12:40 PM

Agree so much.....kids are attracted to basketball hot beds, places that are... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 12:45 PM

Bob Huggins is from M-Town. And went to school at WVU. That's their Bob... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 12:45 PM

That's true. I was speaking more to the ability to be successfull at basketball... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 12:52 PM

I have no illusions about UNC/Duke, but I do think we're knocking on the door,... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 01:06 PM

Why do we have to have a "proven, name coach" come here?

- Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 12:46 PM

I have a hard time time believing anyone would take the chance on an unproven... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 12:53 PM

I think you're presenting a false choice. I don't think the the options are... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 01:02 PM

If you haven't gotten it done at the top level. (ACC/BE/Big 12) You fall into... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 01:09 PM

So you are saying Seth is a proven commodity at the big time college basketball... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 08:57 PM

'Big time'? Absolutely not. No one is saying that. But Taking VT, a... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 09:48 PM

How about this ... he can't say that Seth is a proven commodity, but you also... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 09:35 PM

I think people are over the "VT has always sucked" argument..........it was... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 12:37 PM

Yet we WERE in the Big East. And got smoked. Consistently. In the ACC, for... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 12:48 PM

We were never really a fit for the BE. Also, Ricky Stokes was anabomination. I... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 12:57 PM

Dude, we were a cast away in the Big Easy for 4 years. Come on......

- Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 12:52 PM

Half the fanbase? You're delusional. Not even close.

- YBYSAIAHokie Mon Jan 23 2012 12:13 PM

You must not talk to very many people, or you have a narrow variety of... - hokiekev 2k4 Mon Jan 23 2012 01:36 PM

I talk to a wide variety of Hokie fans all the time............The truth is,... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 12:32 PM

You talk to a wide variety of Hokie fans? So, what percentage of that number... - YBYSAIAHokie Mon Jan 23 2012 02:13 PM

You are allowed to be a critic of Seth, realize his strength and weaknesses,... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 12:35 PM

It's the age old catch-22.....................If I think Seth is a bad coach,... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 12:40 PM

And what percentage of the fanbase do you think feels the way you do? 50% ? ... - YBYSAIAHokie Mon Jan 23 2012 02:31 PM

What data gathering method did you use on which to make this conclusion? ... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 02:39 PM

I was using a previous poster's estimate: hokiekev 2k4 And by "fickle... - YBYSAIAHokie Mon Jan 23 2012 03:14 PM

The "he don't agree, so he ain't right" scientific method......

- Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 03:08 PM

No, it's the "I talk to a wide variety of Hokie fans, so I am right" scientific... - YBYSAIAHokie Mon Jan 23 2012 04:02 PM

Which I believe you countered with "Well, I spoke to MY friends and they... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 04:06 PM

So I guess Chris Coleman is part of the fickle minority that has too much... - OXVT Mon Jan 23 2012 07:38 AM

Sorry Smales! Chris rarely makes cogent criticisms, either. He seems inclined... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 02:02 PM

It's not Chris's job to figure out why the basketball team has poor... - Hubman Mon Jan 23 2012 04:32 PM

Yes. Just because a guy works for TSL doesn't make everything he says true.

- st_andrew Mon Jan 23 2012 11:38 AM

People are legitimately wanting to buy out Seth's contract? Man. I know Seth... - beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 12:02 PM

That's just fantasy posting by extremely ignorant - as in uninformed - posters... - crooked road Mon Jan 23 2012 08:16 PM

"Suk it"? Isn't that a TOS violation? Yeah, I admit SG has coaching flaws. But... - YBYSAIAHokie Mon Jan 23 2012 07:54 AM

Then there are the fans that look at his entire history both good and bad, and... - VPI63 Tue Jan 24 2012 12:37 AM

It might end up being repeated, but it's not "likely" to be repeated. You... - Nova Hokie 95 Tue Jan 24 2012 12:57 AM

I'll correct you, not only would Beamer have been fired after 1992...but... - Hokie Flyer Mon Jan 23 2012 09:31 AM

Pot calling the kettle black here. How did that 2006 comment about our team... - JDubbHokie Mon Jan 23 2012 07:52 AM

Plateau frustration, for lack of better words. I think the initial enthusiasm... - AHBHokie Sun Jan 22 2012 10:53 PM

What do you mean by "poor fundamentals?" If you address this, it might explain... - rockford Mon Jan 23 2012 01:05 PM

No, I don't dispute that. But you can't cherry pick one stat like that and use... - AHBHokie Thu Jan 26 2012 03:35 AM

Solid.

- beedubyah Mon Jan 23 2012 12:41 PM

I think that there would be more good will had we made the NCAA tourney a few... - VT Wink Sun Jan 22 2012 10:44 PM

Excellent post. A concise statement of Coach SG's talents and issues. One... - techman Mon Jan 23 2012 10:39 PM

He will be gone well before 3 more NCAA misses, if the financial support, in... - Atlee Hokie Sun Jan 22 2012 10:54 PM

I think he stays until the end of his contract. Why? I think we will be on... - Bcscg Mon Jan 23 2012 12:15 AM

Here's the thing re: buying out a contract -- you're almost always going to... - Nova Hokie 95 Mon Jan 23 2012 12:53 AM

Question for you, or anybody else who might know - VT Noslen Mon Jan 23 2012 12:35 PM

Someone posted his contract details in here last week, I think. It's a... - Groff Mon Jan 23 2012 12:46 PM

What should this program aspire to be? - NC Hoke Sun Jan 29 2012 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=NC Hoke;203904]During our run of losses over recent weeks I've seen a... - TomTurkey Wed Feb 01 2012 09:52 AM

Penn St., Nebraska, USC, etc...fans have been asking the same question for... - stuboy Tue Jan 31 2012 10:26 PM

Nebraska has had a few short periods of basketball success (relatively... - DanNUandVT Tue Jan 31 2012 11:05 PM

In my opinion Nebraska has one of the finest bball minds in the business right... - Cvillehoops13 Wed Feb 01 2012 12:20 AM

We'll have to see how long Doc Sadler lasts. Without having finished over .500... - DanNUandVT Wed Feb 01 2012 12:35 AM

I've always thought that to win at Nebraska you have to go out and get a guy... - Cvillehoops13 Wed Feb 01 2012 03:15 PM

What percentage of success for coaches is x's and o's and how much is Jims and... - KCHokie2 Wed Feb 01 2012 04:05 PM

Greenburg has a losing conference record since he has been coach. In a major... - GO_HOKIES_GO Tue Jan 31 2012 08:33 PM

When we joined the ACC (or when Greenberg first took over for our final Big... - DanNUandVT Wed Feb 01 2012 12:55 AM

You DO realize this group of frosh is the first recruiting class that the new... - Wandering_Hokie Tue Jan 31 2012 10:12 PM

actually, he's an even .500; 184-184: 65-43 in BW; 47-63 CUSA; 7-9 BE; 65-69... - Hokie'79 Tue Jan 31 2012 10:06 PM

Aspire to be, or have as a reasonable goal? Aspire to be? Win a National... - Late 80s Hokie Tue Jan 31 2012 06:33 PM

NCAA tourney 40-50% of the time is Maryland territory, and they have 60 years... - Wandering_Hokie Tue Jan 31 2012 10:16 PM

Yes, it's a stretch goal, but if I assume that we're consistently in the top... - Late 80s Hokie Wed Feb 01 2012 02:49 PM

Maryland has made the tournament 14 of the last 18 years, including 11 straight... - Groff Tue Jan 31 2012 10:26 PM

I am asking what we want to be as a program. Your stated reasonable goal... - NC Hoke Tue Jan 31 2012 07:11 PM

We should aspire to make the NCAA Tournament every season and always fire the... - YBYSAIAHokie Tue Jan 31 2012 09:44 AM

Seth would have been fired 8 times by now...

- Groff Tue Jan 31 2012 10:04 AM

Let me throw this in there...we've just got too many "fans" who just don't care... - Chris Coleman Tue Jan 31 2012 01:49 PM

Was that JW?

- SECJesse Tue Jan 31 2012 07:26 PM

Right, so back to my original question, then: Is the level of fan support... - Groff Tue Jan 31 2012 02:11 PM

I have the deadly triple whammy combo of VT hoops fandom. - Gobbler Guru Tue Jan 31 2012 04:11 PM

The first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament make up my favorite four day... - Chris Coleman Tue Jan 31 2012 04:26 PM

Definitely, Chris. I was there too, and it was an awesome experience.

- NickVT2000 Wed Feb 01 2012 02:29 PM

Nice sig by the way!

- Chris Coleman Tue Jan 31 2012 02:21 PM

Oh I see what you mean, and they are totally fair questions. People like to... - Chris Coleman Tue Jan 31 2012 02:20 PM

Since you ask - I had a small B&W TV in my room in Lee in 1979/80 and 80/81. ... - DJ Golf Tue Jan 31 2012 02:40 PM

We picked up the signal just fine over in Pritchard. 78-80.

- Stork Wed Feb 01 2012 06:56 AM

5th floor Lee Hall here 80 and 81! Great memories!

- VTHokieTom Tue Jan 31 2012 07:28 PM

Haha, good info. And yeah, it always seems like people from the 80s and... - Chris Coleman Tue Jan 31 2012 02:59 PM

Listening to the Clash beat the heck out of watching "Dallas" on a 12-inch B&W,... - DJ Golf Tue Jan 31 2012 10:02 PM

Our 12" B & W dorm TV was tuned into The Twilight Zone, followed by Wild Wild... - johnmcd40 Wed Feb 01 2012 06:02 AM

Yep. In the 80's it was hoops and music for me. - Gobbler Guru Tue Jan 31 2012 08:58 PM

Yeah, that's really all I was getting at. I kind of bristle at the notion that... - Groff Tue Jan 31 2012 02:33 PM

The first time? Or the 8th time out of 9? Just sayin...

- hokiekev 2k4 Tue Jan 31 2012 09:56 AM

Wvu

- hokie24210 Tue Jan 31 2012 08:47 AM

HEALTHY. We need to be able to play 10 guys routinely. DFS needs a sammich.

- aint2Hokie4me Tue Jan 31 2012 04:50 AM

This is a really outstanding thread that has made me stop and think about where... - Will Stewart Mon Jan 30 2012 09:23 PM

Will, can I ask your honest opinion. Where does VT rank in the ACC as a... - chuckd4vt Mon Jan 30 2012 11:14 PM

Hate to bail on you, chuck, but I can't do that question justice here on the... - Will Stewart Tue Jan 31 2012 03:15 PM

To me, that's the article, and what I keep trying to get at: fan support *is*... - Groff Tue Jan 31 2012 03:34 PM

Sorry, not Will, but I have some opinions about your questions to him I would... - NC Hoke Tue Jan 31 2012 08:49 AM

We don't have enough fans to fill up Cassell for weekday games, winning or not.... - RapmasterAC Tue Jan 31 2012 02:17 PM

I disagree. Put a good product on the court, i.e., a team like the one I... - NC Hoke Tue Jan 31 2012 02:28 PM

Attendance is down in college basketball across the board, it's been that way... - RapmasterAC Tue Jan 31 2012 02:38 PM

But wait - if your point is that attendance is an across the board issue then... - NC Hoke Tue Jan 31 2012 04:14 PM

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